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AYLR – Ask Your Local Rabbi
KHLH – כל המקיל לא הפסיד
IMHnrO - In My Humble non-rabbinic Opinion
MB – Mishna Berura
MM - Mar'eh Makom
MMR – Machlokes Mechaber & Rema
NM - Nafka Minah
S – Siman
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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 950916 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1140 on: December 14, 2015, 12:30:33 PM »
Just use the ignore thread option if you're not interested.
Tia
read the previous few posts before you say that, as it doesnt really fit

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1141 on: December 14, 2015, 09:41:11 PM »
read the previous few posts before you say that, as it doesnt really fit
-1 for someone to say that the OU says it is better to have a hechsher while the CRC is more lenient is very legitimate and if you feel that the thread is a waste by someone saying that it depends who you ask then maybe you ARE best off ignoring it.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1142 on: December 17, 2015, 01:37:26 PM »
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1143 on: December 17, 2015, 01:38:05 PM »
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Do you generally give maaser on rewards?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1144 on: December 17, 2015, 01:38:59 PM »
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Why not it is profit
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1145 on: December 17, 2015, 02:08:28 PM »
Do you generally give maaser on rewards?
this isnt rewards, this is
Why not it is profit

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1146 on: December 17, 2015, 02:09:04 PM »
this isnt rewards, this is
Why aren't rewards profit?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1147 on: December 17, 2015, 02:10:44 PM »
Why aren't rewards profit?
thats another story, but this isnt even rewards, this is straight up profit

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1148 on: December 17, 2015, 02:12:33 PM »
thats another story, but this isnt even rewards, this is straight up profit
If I fake spend $1000 and get back  $1050, why is that any different than investing $1000 in my business and making $50 profit?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1149 on: December 17, 2015, 02:13:52 PM »
If I fake spend $1000 and get back  $1050, why is that any different than investing $1000 in my business and making $50 profit?
when i said its a different story, i didnt mean its a different answer, i meant its something that ppl will probably debate both sides on. i didnt intend to get into a  discussion regarding rewards, i was only referring to AJKs question, so i shared my opinion

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1150 on: December 17, 2015, 02:14:25 PM »
when i said its a different story, i didnt mean its a different answer, i meant its something that ppl will probably debate both sides on. i didnt intend to get into a  discussion regarding rewards, i was only referring to AJKs question, so i shared my opinion
I don't see why is a different story.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1151 on: December 17, 2015, 02:15:17 PM »
I don't see why is a different story.
oy vey you dont see my point
forget it

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1152 on: December 17, 2015, 02:30:51 PM »
Why aren't rewards profit?
What are you trying to say? That there its no reason not to give on rewards?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1153 on: December 17, 2015, 03:02:15 PM »
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?

Just like if you bought something for $20 and you sell for $30 you owe maaser on the ten dollars. Here you got something for free and sold for a profit so don't see why you shouldn't owe maaser.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1154 on: December 17, 2015, 03:16:59 PM »
Bought an item. Couldn't return it and got credit from amex return protection. Sold item to someone else.

Owe maaser on money received?
Per US GAAP you would recognize revenue upon the receipt of credit from amex.
-You would account for the nonreturnable item as spoiled inventory expense/shrinkage, (a loss), and therefore when you realized a recovery on this you would record revenue. Your net income at this point should be zero so no maaser yet.  (unless you pay maaser on the DDF rewards part)

You then proceeded to sell the item at a gain over the reduced inventory carrying value. - Pay maaser on this.


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1155 on: December 17, 2015, 03:32:07 PM »
US GAAP? which siman and se'if is that? :P
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1156 on: December 17, 2015, 03:51:41 PM »
US GAAP? which siman and se'if is that?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1157 on: December 17, 2015, 05:41:44 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1158 on: January 04, 2016, 04:18:42 PM »
Posted here yesterday. Wondering if it's an issue. I realised that anyone on that thread probably doesn't want to hear it.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg1370949.msg#1370949

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1159 on: January 06, 2016, 02:42:59 AM »
Posted here yesterday. Wondering if it's an issue. I realised that anyone on that thread probably doesn't want to hear it.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg1370949.msg#1370949
There's an excellent recent book from Feldheim called commerce on shabbos, by Reb Yosef kushner,  who is Reb Shlomo miller's son in law.  It's the most exhaustive and updated guide I've seen to these shailos