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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 324442 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM »
Correct. TTBOMK, one cannot "exploit" a mistake, even of a goy.
a mistake of a computer might not be considered exploiting of a goy.... hence why the PGGM might be allowed acc to some...
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2013, 03:02:15 PM »

Correct. TTBOMK, one cannot "exploit" a mistake, even of a goy.

I believe you are incorrect.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2013, 04:11:08 PM »
I believe you are incorrect.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2013, 04:17:41 PM »
Take it up with your LOR. I have.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2013, 07:07:19 PM »
I was sure people would be upset with me for even asking the question and here so many people say its ossur

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #125 on: August 28, 2013, 07:22:42 PM »
I was sure people would be upset with me for even asking the question and here so many people say its ossur
Well you gotto clarify first if a system error is considered as להטעותו as rots5 said.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #126 on: August 28, 2013, 08:36:35 PM »
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #127 on: August 28, 2013, 10:10:17 PM »
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.
Well when he makes a price mistake you also know that you're causing him to lose,

But what might be is that an unknown error in the system isn't considered as a "mistake", I would look at it rather as an unknown hole/opening leading to your products which you won't call it a "mistake".

Just my thoughts.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #128 on: August 28, 2013, 10:24:48 PM »
What's the חילוק ?  Isn't the vort that you are knowingly causing him (or in this case the corporation) to lose and therefore it is similar to גניבה.

Are corporations people? Romney was killed for that line after all :D
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #129 on: August 30, 2013, 04:01:19 PM »
Whats the halacha regarding selling on shabbos? (online retail)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #130 on: August 30, 2013, 05:13:46 PM »
We definitely hondled this somewhere. 

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #132 on: September 01, 2013, 08:21:40 PM »
Can someone please help me with figuring out when the "ashmoros halyla" occur tonight? For zip code 08701.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #133 on: September 01, 2013, 10:59:17 PM »
Can someone please help me with figuring out when the "ashmoros halyla" occur tonight? For zip code 08701.

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From what I read I understand that it depends in 2 things,

#1
If we divide the night into 3 ashmoires or if we divide it into 4 ashmoires.

#2
If we count night starting from the shkia until the netz or from the tzes until the alois hashachar.

Now you take the whole night and divide into 3 ( if we say that the night has 3 ashmoires ) or into 4 ( if we say that it has 4 ashmoires ).

So being that the shkia in your area is 7:27 and the netz is 6:24 so a 1/3 of the night would be 3 hours and 39 minutes and a 1/4 of the night would be 2 hours and 44 minutes.

And if we count night night from the tzes to the alois then being that the tzes is 8:39 and the alois is 5:00 so a 1/3 of the night would be 2 hours and 43 minutes and a 1/4 would be 2 hours and 10 minutes.

I might be totally wrong but as far as I understand this subject this should be the answer, anybody CMIIW.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #134 on: September 01, 2013, 11:05:50 PM »
From what I read I understand that it depends in 2 things,

#1
If we divide the night into 3 ashmoires or if we divide it into 4 ashmoires.

#2
If we count night starting from the shkia until the netz or from the tzes until the alois hashachar.

Now you take the whole night and divide into 3 ( if we say that the night has 3 ashmoires ) or into 4 ( if we say that it has 4 ashmoires ).

So being that the shkia in your area is 7:27 and the netz is 6:24 so a 1/3 of the night would be 3 hours and 39 minutes and a 1/4 of the night would be 2 hours and 44 minutes.

And if we count night night from the tzes to the alois then being that the tzes is 8:39 and the alois is 5:00 so a 1/3 of the night would be 2 hours and 43 minutes and a 1/4 would be 2 hours and 10 minutes.

I might be totally wrong but as far as I understand this subject this should be the answer, anybody CMIIW.

I think we follow the oponion of 3 ashmoires. I too am unsure of when we start counting, anybody know for sure?