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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 974407 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1540 on: July 14, 2016, 12:16:39 PM »


ETA 
Not minhag ashkenaz though.
I don't like this minhag business. The mishna brura probably never saw a commercial food product.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1541 on: July 14, 2016, 12:20:59 PM »
I don't like this minhag business. The mishna brura probably never saw a commercial food product.
What are you talking about?

 Is erasing via tearing a package comparable to eating a cookie or not. This is your comparison to make. Any logical person would say that tearing a package is more a derech mechika than chewing it.


Mb explicitly does not permit breaking a cookie with letters on it with a hand.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1542 on: July 14, 2016, 12:24:20 PM »
What are you talking about?

 Is erasing via tearing a package comparable to eating a cookie or not. This is your comparison to make. Any logical person would say that tearing a package is more a derech mechika than chewing it.


Mb explicitly does not permit breaking a cookie with letters on it with a hand.
I'm not saying it's not derech mechika, I'm saying it's not a psik reisha.

Perhaps it differs from a cookie because you know which part of the cookie you're biting, whereas with a package, wherever it rips it rips. I'm not suggesting you can rip letters intentionally.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1543 on: July 14, 2016, 01:36:19 PM »
I'm not saying it's not derech mechika, I'm saying it's not a psik reisha.

Perhaps it differs from a cookie because you know which part of the cookie you're biting, whereas with a package, wherever it rips it rips. I'm not suggesting you can rip letters intentionally.
I don't understand the question. If you intentionally tore the letters, then it's not a davar she'eino miskaven, so psik reisha doesn't enter into it. So what halacha are you asking on? Is there a halacha that you can't try to tear avoiding the letters? Are you talking about where you tried tearing without hitting the letters, and you ended up hitting the letters?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1544 on: July 14, 2016, 01:40:48 PM »
I don't understand the question. If you intentionally tore the letters, then it's not a davar she'eino miskaven, so psik reisha doesn't enter into it. So what halacha are you asking on? Is there a halacha that you can't try to tear avoiding the letters? Are you talking about where you tried tearing without hitting the letters, and you ended up hitting the letters?
It's a davar she'eino miskaven even if your act is intentional.

I'm talking about you open a potato chip bag and you don't know if it will rip the letters or not.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1545 on: July 14, 2016, 01:42:22 PM »


How is it a psik reisha if it can also be done without ripping

What does that have to do with psik reisha ? Psik reisha is a fact that u are erasing a word while opening the package, no difference if you can do it in another place

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1546 on: July 14, 2016, 01:45:49 PM »
It's a davar she'eino miskaven even if your act is intentional.

I'm talking about you open a potato chip bag and you don't know if it will rip the letters or not.
What are you suggesting? That you shouldn't need to attempt to avoid the letters? Or that if you do attempt to avoid the letters and fail, it's not a problem?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1547 on: July 14, 2016, 01:55:17 PM »
Both
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1548 on: July 14, 2016, 11:17:46 PM »
@good sam, your out to lunch

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1549 on: July 15, 2016, 08:31:43 AM »
@good sam, your out to lunch
You're
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1550 on: July 21, 2016, 06:38:27 PM »
May one wear a mosquito arm band/bracelet if there's no eiruv ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1551 on: July 21, 2016, 11:34:01 PM »
May one wear a mosquito arm band/bracelet if there's no eiruv ?
its hard to think that its better than a watch that's not pashut to wear unless its a tachshit

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1552 on: July 24, 2016, 07:17:03 PM »
Per the daf there is an issur hanhagas killayim in fish.
So if you are fishing you shouldn't have two hooks on one line. Cuz reeling in two minim may be a deorayso.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1553 on: July 24, 2016, 07:26:18 PM »
Per the daf there is an issur hanhagas killayim in fish.
So if you are fishing you shouldn't have two hooks on one line. Cuz reeling in two minim may be a deorayso.

What say you?
How about fishing with a net?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1554 on: July 24, 2016, 07:33:53 PM »
How about fishing with a net?
Maybe. But much less similar to "hanhaga"

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1555 on: July 24, 2016, 08:14:12 PM »
Maybe. But much less similar to "hanhaga"
Shas is full of p people fishing with nets including for the mishkan
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1556 on: July 24, 2016, 09:49:39 PM »
Shas is full of p people fishing with nets including for the mishkan
Fine, I'm not the one who brought up nets. With a net you are just scooping them all up.
With a line, you do reel them in also. But my question was because you give the fish slack to pull away to get hooked.. so the fish are pulling on the line together.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1557 on: July 24, 2016, 10:21:25 PM »
Fine, I'm not the one who brought up nets. With a net you are just scooping them all up.
With a line, you do reel them in also. But my question was because you give the fish slack to pull away to get hooked.. so the fish are pulling on the line together.
Your difference doesn't exist
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1558 on: July 24, 2016, 10:34:47 PM »
Your difference doesn't exist
Not sure what you are saying.

As I understand it, the lav is to use two minim together to pull a load, or do a task.  There is no comparison between a bunch of fish in a net to this.
On the other hand, two fish pulling on a line together for my benefit is definitely comparable.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1559 on: July 25, 2016, 12:05:05 PM »
Why don't you guys just look it up in Yoreh Deiah instead of theorizing?