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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 964817 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #200 on: June 02, 2014, 11:49:14 PM »
Is the study of "financial accounting and reporting" tantamount to studying a science like medicine which is muttar on Shabbos; or would it be considered a business matter 'mischar' which is prohibited?


(I mean bedieved/instead of reading the paper. Not necessarily a formal study session..)

You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #201 on: June 02, 2014, 11:51:46 PM »
You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?
Then why is medicine muttar? (its also the persons future job)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #202 on: June 03, 2014, 12:00:40 AM »
Then why is medicine muttar? (its also the persons future job)

I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #203 on: June 03, 2014, 12:15:15 AM »
I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.
Oh    :-[

I was basing my assumption in cbc's post which I guess I misunderstood.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #204 on: June 03, 2014, 12:20:16 AM »
You know the answer. You're studying accounting which is your (future) job, not?
Technically it is to pass a test which is required by a future job..
But who said job or no job is what defines mischar?
Maybe accounting is a science, like medicine, which is permissible (probably) even if it is what you get paid to practice..

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #205 on: June 03, 2014, 12:20:44 AM »
To my knowledge, learning science on Shabbos is permitted.
Only you know how much of your studying is just for the test, and how much is knowledge.

Accounting is not considered a science.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #206 on: June 03, 2014, 12:21:45 AM »
I don't think medicine for work is muttar. Just the science of medicine is.
Not sure about this.... Can source it?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #207 on: June 03, 2014, 12:23:30 AM »


Accounting is not considered a science.
Its a body or rules, the issur is inyaney mischar. "Science" is not a requirement...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #208 on: June 03, 2014, 12:50:56 AM »
@cbc, you said a factor is,  that it pertains to a future job. 

If you're doing the studying/taking the course as a hobby,  it would make it more muttar? (meaning no future "job",  but you plan on using the knowledge/skills for a volunteer job.)


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #209 on: June 24, 2014, 01:16:44 AM »
PGGM ($200 airline credit) Does anyone know what Halacha says about it.
Also is it safe to assume that the higher ups in amex know about it, yet they haven't done anything about it. Could say that if not enough people know about it it's still beneficial since it attracts customers etc..
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #210 on: June 24, 2014, 09:12:03 AM »
Does anyone know if you are allowed to buy a factory refurbished blender? Is the machine the only thing that is refurbished? Has anyone asked about this before, or more importantly know the precise definition of refurbished in these cases.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #211 on: June 24, 2014, 10:02:01 AM »
Does anyone know if you are allowed to buy a factory refurbished blender? Is the machine the only thing that is refurbished? Has anyone asked about this before, or more importantly know the precise definition of refurbished in these cases.

TIA
You could probably kasher it anyway...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #212 on: June 24, 2014, 10:04:29 AM »
PGGM ($200 airline credit) Does anyone know what Halacha says about it.
Also is it safe to assume that the higher ups in amex know about it, yet they haven't done anything about it. Could say that if not enough people know about it it's still beneficial since it attracts customers etc..
Thanks
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In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #213 on: June 24, 2014, 10:08:17 AM »
AYLOR.
In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part

I will ask my LOR. I was thinking of buying the Ninja Blender on the woot off. It's not such a big deal that I missed it--Amazon has the refurbished one for 6 more dollars.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #214 on: June 24, 2014, 10:12:58 AM »
I will ask my LOR. I was thinking of buying the Ninja Blender on the woot off. It's not such a big deal that I missed it--Amazon has the refurbished one for 6 more dollars.
I wasn't responding to you...
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #215 on: June 24, 2014, 11:40:35 AM »
AYLOR.
In terms of the facts, I doubt the bolded part
I do plan on asking my LOR. I'm wanted to see if I can assume that amex knows about it.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #216 on: June 24, 2014, 03:39:39 PM »
I wasn't responding to you...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #217 on: June 30, 2014, 06:22:40 PM »
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #218 on: June 30, 2014, 06:34:29 PM »
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?
I'm pretty sure that all melacha is d'rabanan until tzeis, no matter when you're mekabel shabbos.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #219 on: June 30, 2014, 07:47:54 PM »
If I accept early shabbos, is the melacha that I do after wards de'oraisa or derabanan?

It's a Machlokes Rishonim in the beginning of Arvei Pesachim as to whether Tosefes Shabbos is Drabnan or D'orayssa. IIRC, we pasken it's drabanan. Conseqeuntly, Melacha done during that time is only D'rabanan, and if someone does accept Shabbos, the Halacha allows for certain kulos.
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