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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 973019 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2000 on: January 16, 2017, 10:23:52 PM »
No, it is the way to keep it warm.
gotcha, so lfi zeh if i wanna bake s/t over shabbos in an oven in a case of hatmana it wouldnt be a problem?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2001 on: January 16, 2017, 10:25:23 PM »
gotcha, so lfi zeh if i wanna bake s/t over shabbos in an oven in a case of hatmana it wouldnt be a problem?
Tell me your case exactly.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2002 on: January 16, 2017, 10:26:39 PM »
Tell me your case exactly.
its hypothetical, a classic case of hatmana just for baking instead of keeping warm

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2003 on: January 16, 2017, 10:31:26 PM »
its hypothetical, a classic case of hatmana just for baking instead of keeping warm
You will need to do better than that. It is mutar to leave the food inside of an oven as long as it is not shehiya
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2004 on: January 16, 2017, 10:40:36 PM »
You will need to do better than that. It is mutar to leave the food inside of an oven as long as it is not shehiya
if hatmana is a chshash shema yechate what would be the difference btwn keeping it warm and actually baking

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2005 on: January 16, 2017, 11:04:02 PM »
if hatmana is a chshash shema yechate what would be the difference btwn keeping it warm and actually baking
It is befeirush in the mishna that you may leave things in a kira that is garuf vkatum. I am not sure what your question is.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2006 on: January 16, 2017, 11:10:31 PM »
gotcha, so lfi zeh if i wanna bake s/t over shabbos in an oven in a case of hatmana it wouldnt be a problem?
Hatmana is wrapping food. Not an oven

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2007 on: January 16, 2017, 11:39:48 PM »
It is befeirush in the mishna that you may leave things in a kira that is garuf vkatum. I am not sure what your question is.
m"b 297, 5. in that case are you saying that if it was for cooking instead of keeping warm it would be mutar? if yes whats the difference? not sure why ur bringing in shehiya

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2008 on: January 16, 2017, 11:44:03 PM »
m"b 297, 5. in that case are you saying that if it was for cooking instead of keeping warm it would be mutar? if yes whats the difference? not sure why ur bringing in shehiya
I am not getting your question.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2009 on: January 16, 2017, 11:47:22 PM »
I am not getting your question.
theres an issur hatmana bdavar hamosif hevel shema yatmin b'efer. are you saying that that issur only applies when ur keeping s/t warn but if thats the way its cooked theres no problem? if yes why should cooking be different

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2010 on: January 16, 2017, 11:50:43 PM »
theres an issur hatmana bdavar hamosif hevel shema yatmin b'efer. are you saying that that issur only applies when ur keeping s/t warn but if thats the way its cooked theres no problem? if yes why should cooking be different
Now I get it. He only says it regarding matmin of one food in another.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2011 on: January 17, 2017, 12:02:24 AM »
Now I get it. He only says it regarding matmin of one food in another.
i didnt realize that, and by sous vide u would consider it one food in another even though the water is just being used for cooking?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2012 on: January 17, 2017, 12:11:11 AM »
i didnt realize that, and by sous vide u would consider it one food in another even though the water is just being used for cooking?
Why is it only for cooking?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2013 on: January 17, 2017, 12:17:59 AM »
Why is it only for cooking?
youre right i just never thought like that but technically you can use the water for drinking
though i would think thats not usually how ppl are using it

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2014 on: January 17, 2017, 11:31:35 PM »
Citation?
OC 2:50. Inference to siddur and chumash is not in the text, but I believe it is fairly simple, and IIRC I heard it from a posek

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2015 on: January 25, 2017, 11:40:20 PM »
Reuven and shimon send Levi to the store to buy sushi. Reuven asks him to buy two rolls of $5 flavor and shimon asks Levi to buy one roll that cost $5.50 (different flavor). It ends up being that there's buy two get one free but Levi doesn't realize and pays $10.50 ($5.50 for the higher one plus $5 for the other). Reuven says he would have been more than happy to have a third roll free. How much does shimon owe? Does he have any chelek in the free one?
I need to find out more details but here's as much as I know. Obviously this would make a big difference with larger amounts of money so it's a general shailoh
« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 11:46:09 PM by ben89 »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2016 on: January 25, 2017, 11:53:38 PM »
Reuven and shimon send Levi to the store to buy sushi. Reuven asks him to buy two rolls of $5 flavor and shimon asks Levi to buy one roll that cost $5.50 (different flavor). It ends up being that there's buy two get one free but Levi doesn't realize and pays $10.50 ($5.50 for the higher one plus $5 for the other). Reuven says he would have been more than happy to have a third roll free. How much does shimon owe? Does he have any chelek in the free one?
I need to find out more details but here's as much as I know. Obviously this would make a big difference with larger amounts of money so it's a general shailoh
If reuven had no idea about the promotion, then I would say levi could keep the 3rd roll (or in this case the money). Because he could have bought reuven his 2 rolls, kept the 3rd for himself, and bought Shimon a 4th roll...
« Last Edit: January 26, 2017, 12:06:14 AM by shulem92 »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2017 on: January 26, 2017, 12:04:58 AM »
If Shimon had no idea about the promotion, then I would say Reuven could keep the 3rd roll (or in this case the money). Because he could have bought Shimon his 2 rolls, kept the 3rd for himself, and bought Levi a 4th roll...
Read it again, your names are mixed up. I think you mean Levi could keep it
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2018 on: January 26, 2017, 12:05:39 AM »
Read it again, your names are mixed up. I think you mean Levi could keep it
Correct. I'll fix it

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #2019 on: January 26, 2017, 01:53:58 AM »
If reuven had no idea about the promotion, then I would say levi could keep the 3rd roll (or in this case the money). Because he could have bought reuven his 2 rolls, kept the 3rd for himself, and bought Shimon a 4th roll...
Interesting. That might depend on whether or not Reuven and Shimon are considered to have jointly sent Levi, or each is a separate shlichus.

I would generally say the latter, but there might be a scenario in which it's the former.