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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 584950 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3200 on: July 22, 2018, 07:38:13 PM »
everything is muttar besides meat and wine except havdalah. Music is a shailoh
What’s the shaila of music ? Any early poskim bring it down ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3201 on: July 22, 2018, 07:41:51 PM »
Everything except meat wine and some say music
Is the consensus to drink havdala wine?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3202 on: July 22, 2018, 07:43:49 PM »
Is the consensus to drink havdala wine?
Whats the seder of havdala ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3203 on: July 22, 2018, 07:48:01 PM »
Is the consensus to drink havdala wine?
I do not know of cholkim on the MB 556:3 from dagul mervava

Whats the seder of havdala ?
hagafen and hamavdil only. no psukim before, bsomim, aish
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3204 on: July 22, 2018, 07:51:03 PM »
What’s the shaila of music ? Any early poskim bring it down ?
I saw in recent poskim and is is implied in M"B 558 Sh"Hz 4 and therefore his sources as well (PMG). I saw it brought in the name of Moed Likol Chai (R Chaim Palagi). The discussion is what would be incongruent with having just ended aveilus during the day.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3205 on: July 22, 2018, 07:52:34 PM »
I do not know of cholkim on the MB 556:3 from dagul mervava
hagafen and hamavdil only. no psukim before, bsomim, aish
Oruch hashulchan. I can't imagine he's the only one..

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3206 on: July 22, 2018, 07:52:41 PM »
hagafen and hamavdil only. no psukim before, bsomim, aish
Do women have to wait for havdala before eating/drinking ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3207 on: July 22, 2018, 07:52:55 PM »
hagafen and hamavdil only. no psukim before,no bsomim, no aish
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3208 on: July 22, 2018, 08:00:43 PM »
ftfy
If you feel that is more clear....
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3209 on: July 22, 2018, 08:05:47 PM »
Oruch hashulchan. I can't imagine he's the only one..
Okay but that is also arguing on the Maharil.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3210 on: July 22, 2018, 08:08:47 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3211 on: July 22, 2018, 08:10:00 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3212 on: July 22, 2018, 08:10:04 PM »
Okay but that is also arguing on the Maharil.
משמעות המהריל. Not mefurash

Typically I would say for sure to be meikal and drink wine, because even during shavah shchal Bo yesh lehakel for the mitzvah of havdala.

 Thing is that this havdala is more to be yotzeh as it is only a machlokes. So maybe being machmir on yayin is a kulah..

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3213 on: July 22, 2018, 08:12:48 PM »
משמעות המהריל. Not mefurash

Typically I would say for sure to be meikal and drink wine, because even during shavah shchal Bo yesh lehakel for the mitzvah of havdala.

 Thing is that this havdala is more to be yotzeh as it is only a machlokes. So maybe being machmir on yayin is a kulah..
It is a pretty strong mashmaus considering that it says he said hagafen. There is also the svara that for havdala we would not say mipnei aveilus shel yom since it is not derech simcha.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3214 on: July 22, 2018, 08:13:12 PM »
I saw in recent poskim and is is implied in M"B 558 Sh"Hz 4 and therefore his sources as well (PMG). I saw it brought in the name of Moed Likol Chai (R Chaim Palagi). The discussion is what would be incongruent with having just ended aveilus during the day.
I understand the discussion, just don’t see from the MB any lead to which category music falls under. 

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3215 on: July 22, 2018, 08:14:33 PM »
It is a pretty strong mashmaus considering that it says he said hagafen. There is also the svara that for havdala we would not say mipnei aveilus shel yom since it is not derech simcha.
Could of given to a koton. No stirah at all

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3216 on: July 22, 2018, 08:15:54 PM »
I understand the discussion, just don’t see from the MB any lead to which category music falls under. 
He only allows for the seudas choson
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3217 on: July 22, 2018, 08:17:50 PM »
Do women have to wait for havdala before eating/drinking ?
yes
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3218 on: July 22, 2018, 08:21:28 PM »
Could of given to a koton. No stirah at all
That is not what the Aruch Hasulchan says to do. He writes to use chamar medina
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3219 on: July 22, 2018, 08:22:17 PM »
Do women have to wait for havdala before eating/drinking ?
They can drink water before just like on MTZSH but otherwise
yes
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