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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 303506 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3495 on: March 03, 2019, 02:43:31 PM »
-1 R' Dovid and R' Reuven both signed on the letter saying it's an issue.
Issue ??  Be honest they hold its Assur
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3497 on: March 04, 2019, 09:05:30 PM »
Perhaps they should be more clear in their "halachic analysis" that it "may" be an issue to open a closed bottle on Shabbos, as is actually written in some of the haskomas. Not just write point black that it is an issue.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3499 on: March 04, 2019, 09:29:26 PM »
New Shabbos invention.
http://www.kosherimage.com/shabbosBottleOpener.html 
http://www.kosherimage.com/shabbosBottleOpener.html
it seems that the device is actually stretching the ring so it doesn't break when opening and can now be screwed on again afterwards. If my assumption is correct , why is that not in it if itself makeh bepatish?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3500 on: March 04, 2019, 09:48:39 PM »
it seems that the device is actually stretching the ring so it doesn't break when opening and can now be screwed on again afterwards. If my assumption is correct , why is that not in it if itself makeh bepatish?
figured the same, cant see exactly what it does, but looked like it cuts a new pattern into it...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3501 on: March 04, 2019, 09:56:55 PM »
The literature accompanying the video claims that when the cap is placed back on the bottle the ring will break off the next time the cap is screwed on unless the device is used the second time. If this device is successful it will be its own undoing, since the manufacturers will no longer have a tamper proof bottle and will have to redesign it....

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3502 on: March 05, 2019, 10:43:16 AM »
The literature accompanying the video claims that when the cap is placed back on the bottle the ring will break off the next time the cap is screwed on unless the device is used the second time. If this device is successful it will be its own undoing, since the manufacturers will no longer have a tamper proof bottle and will have to redesign it....
What? Because because a few Jews are opening bottles with the ring they will re-invent the cap?!?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3503 on: March 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM »
it seems that the device is actually stretching the ring so it doesn't break when opening and can now be screwed on again afterwards. If my assumption is correct , why is that not in it if itself makeh bepatish?
Bending the small plastic sticks that hold the ring on is not considered a molocha. On the contrary the problem this poses, is now that this device is available you should be able to open the cap regularly as breaking the ring is not necessary!
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3504 on: March 05, 2019, 10:47:13 AM »
figured the same, cant see exactly what it does, but looked like it cuts a new pattern into it...
No cutting. It just bends the small plastic sticks out so they don’t hold the ring back.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3505 on: March 05, 2019, 10:48:20 AM »
Perhaps they should be more clear in their "halachic analysis" that it "may" be an issue to open a closed bottle on Shabbos, as is actually written in some of the haskomas. Not just write point black that it is an issue.
It’s a chashash De’oraisya, Shabbos, korus. Not sure what more you need.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3506 on: March 05, 2019, 10:56:10 AM »
It’s a chashash De’oraisya, Shabbos, korus. Not sure what more you need.
According to some poskim.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3507 on: March 05, 2019, 11:25:52 AM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3508 on: March 05, 2019, 11:30:37 AM »
According to some poskim.
According to a lot.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3509 on: March 05, 2019, 04:08:05 PM »