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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 330670 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3960 on: November 11, 2019, 12:01:09 AM »
returning seforim to their place? ;)
I meant the whole sefer...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3961 on: November 29, 2019, 09:12:04 AM »
Staying at a hotel over shabbos. The hotel presented me with breakfast vouchers. Can they be used on Shabbos? Is that considered paying or pre-paid? And if I can use them, can I have hot coffee, assuming that it was almost certainly made by a non-Jew, and they the majority of guests (prob 90%) are non Jews?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3962 on: December 07, 2019, 07:58:28 PM »
What’s the halacha about using sink water that has the cotton filter for drinking & washing on shabbos ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3963 on: December 07, 2019, 08:06:02 PM »
What’s the halacha about using sink water that has the cotton filter for drinking & washing on shabbos ?
Washing definitely ok, drinking AYLOR. I believe R' Elyashiv held assur.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3964 on: December 07, 2019, 08:12:40 PM »
What’s the halacha about using sink water that has the cotton filter for drinking & washing on shabbos ?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3965 on: December 07, 2019, 08:24:39 PM »
What’s the halacha about using sink water that has the cotton filter for drinking & washing on shabbos ?
in NYC, Rav Dovid Feinstien holds it's Assur for drinking וכן פשוט מהסוגיא that if you are Makpid it's considered Psoles Gamur, as opposed to in New Jersey where it's just a matter of preference it's muttar because it was drinkable before. The same applies to washing dishes, since it would be usable without filtering, it would be OK.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3966 on: December 07, 2019, 08:30:01 PM »
in NYC, Rav Dovid Feinstien holds it's Assur for drinking וכן פשוט מהסוגיא that if you are Makpid it's considered Psoles Gamur, as opposed to in New Jersey where it's just a matter of preference it's muttar because it was drinkable before. The same applies to washing dishes, since it would be usable without filtering, it would be OK.
Many many poskim are speaking specifically from this situation with infestation, and conclude that if a goy would drink it, considering it pure, it's not bichlal psoles. In addition that opening a sink is not a real מעשה ברירה, though some are Machmir to let the water drain the first second after opening for that reason.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3967 on: December 07, 2019, 08:44:55 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3968 on: December 07, 2019, 08:47:41 PM »
Many many poskim are speaking specifically from this situation with infestation, and conclude that if a goy would drink it, considering it pure, it's not bichlal psoles. In addition that opening a sink is not a real מעשה ברירה, though some are Machmir to let the water drain the first second after opening for that reason.
The Shulchan Aruch O"C 319 16 is talking about water that has Tolaim and only gives a heter with a mapah that is derech shesiah (possibly the same thing would be with a lifestraw) but to filter it 1st would be assur.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3969 on: December 07, 2019, 08:47:46 PM »
Source ?
Look in פסקי תשובות, he brings so from many.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3970 on: December 07, 2019, 08:49:28 PM »
The Shulchan Aruch O"C 319 16 is talking about water that has Tolaim and only gives a heter with a mapah that is derech shesiah (possibly the same thing would be with a lifestraw) but to filter it 1st would be assur.
Talking of visible worms no one, even a goy, wouldn't drink.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3971 on: December 07, 2019, 09:49:02 PM »
Talking of visible worms no one, even a goy, wouldn't drink.
I hear that some might learn like that and that goyim affect whether something is considered psoles.
However, many leading poskim, including Rav Dovid Feinstein, Rav Rueven Feinstein, Rav Feivel Cohen, and Rav Elyashiv, say it's Assur (that a plurality/ majority of Jews considering s/t inedible makes it Psoles).
Therefore, considering that this may be an Issur Skilah, unless your Rov is mattir, it would be at least safek deoraysoh l'chumrah.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3972 on: December 07, 2019, 11:41:29 PM »
What about turning it on to fill a washing cup and leaving it on to drink?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3973 on: December 08, 2019, 12:24:43 AM »
I hear that some might learn like that and that goyim affect whether something is considered psoles.
However, many leading poskim, including Rav Dovid Feinstein, Rav Rueven Feinstein, Rav Feivel Cohen, and Rav Elyashiv, say it's Assur (that a plurality/ majority of Jews considering s/t inedible makes it Psoles).
Therefore, considering that this may be an Issur Skilah, unless your Rov is mattir, it would be at least safek deoraysoh l'chumrah.
You missed the additional part of this way of ברירה by turning a faucet on is definitely considered a שינוי at least, so ספיקא דאורייתא לחומרא doesn't apply here. Just look in Shary tshuva on the place you quoted above. So in your words, unless you prepare the water before shabbos, or just using spring water, no sink water can be used on Shabbos, which is not the case in most Jewish houses AFAIK.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3974 on: December 08, 2019, 12:55:38 AM »
Muttar to print out קריינא דאגרתא online for personal use?
Link?