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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 369847 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4171 on: February 18, 2020, 07:20:29 AM »
There have been other similar letters found as well. Each one was, like this one, promoting having cholov yisroel available for the public and not regarding an individual.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4173 on: February 18, 2020, 09:53:25 AM »
There seems to be a dispute between the close talmidim of Reb Moshe what his position really was.
ופוק חזו מאי עמא דבר
-1 R' Reuven says he held it's muttar l'chatchila.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4174 on: February 18, 2020, 09:55:43 AM »
-1 R' Reuven says he held it's muttar l'chatchila.
I am not sure how this is a -1
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4175 on: February 18, 2020, 09:56:51 AM »
He writes similar in Igros Moshe too. Still people choose the cholov stam yogurt off the aisle instead of choosing the CY ones right next to it, all to save a few cents. There should really be more awareness of his stance in this situation.
If you would be more aware of his stance you wouldn't say things like this.

ETA It's not for no reason that many of his grandchildren (at least all the ones that I know what they do) drink cholov stam. Both of his sons did too and only stopped (relatively) more recently.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4176 on: February 18, 2020, 10:00:57 AM »
I am not sure how this is a -1
1)-1 although I have no way to verify that there are no talmidim who disagree, I haven't heard of any who disagree and I know quite a few.
2) R' Reuven says he held it's muttar l'chatchila.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4177 on: February 18, 2020, 10:50:03 AM »
-1 R' Reuven says he held it's muttar l'chatchila.
Rav Moshe writes very clearly otherwise.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4178 on: February 18, 2020, 10:52:02 AM »
1)-1 although I have no way to verify that there are no talmidim who disagree, I haven't heard of any who disagree and I know quite a few.
2) R' Reuven says he held it's muttar l'chatchila.
I remember that David Lichtenstein had a show episode dedicated to this topic. He interviewed one of the Rabbis of the CRC Chicago and that rabbi said that its not a blanket heter

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4179 on: February 18, 2020, 11:15:26 AM »
This is all besides the fact the the metzius today is not what is discussed by Rav Moshe.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4180 on: February 18, 2020, 11:31:17 AM »
Rav Moshe writes very clearly otherwise.
He says baal nefesh yachmir, that means someone who is not a baal nefesh does not need to be machmir. ETA: this is assuming it's cheaper which it definitely is.
This is all besides the fact the the metzius today is not what is discussed by Rav Moshe.
I was there when R' Reuven got very upset about an ad put out by a cholov yisroel milk distributor saying that nowadays it's different.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4181 on: February 18, 2020, 11:56:51 AM »
I remember that David Lichtenstein had a show episode dedicated to this topic. He interviewed one of the Rabbis of the CRC Chicago and that rabbi said that its not a blanket heter
There is no reliability in psak halacha from that show.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4182 on: February 18, 2020, 02:52:09 PM »
Rav Reuven told me clearly that a baal nefesh is a very high madreigah, and that he himself does not feel that he is holding there (approx. 5 years ago), but since people perceive him as being a real baal nefesh, he himself is machmir. And that for me, there is no reason to (unless they are basically the same price).

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4183 on: February 18, 2020, 03:08:05 PM »
He says baal nefesh yachmir, that means someone who is not a baal nefesh does not need to be machmir. ETA: this is assuming it's cheaper which it definitely is.
He wrote that in 1954. In Igros Moshe Y"D 2-35 in 1970 he wrote in a much stronger way, urging yeshivos to give only CY even it's more expensive, because you need to be mechanech bnei torah this way (perhaps as CY became more accessible and wider distributed). I assume he brought up his 2 sons as bnei torah, therefore I'm skeptical when I hear that R' Ruven isn't makpid because he doesn't consider himself on the madreigeh of a baal nefesh.   And given this letter, I'm even more skeptical.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4184 on: February 18, 2020, 03:55:10 PM »
There is no reliability in psak halacha from that show.
If Rabbi Shmuel Felder saying a halacha why isnt that reliable??
Are you another one of those jealous Lakewooders that can stand him??