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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 468616 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4185 on: February 18, 2020, 04:48:36 PM »
He wrote that in 1954. In Igros Moshe Y"D 2-35 in 1970 he wrote in a much stronger way, urging yeshivos to give only CY even it's more expensive, because you need to be mechanech bnei torah this way (perhaps as CY became more accessible and wider distributed).
That just shows this:
There have been other similar letters found as well. Each one was, like this one, promoting having cholov yisroel available for the public and not regarding an individual.
I assume he brought up his 2 sons as bnei torah, therefore I'm skeptical when I hear that R' Ruven isn't makpid because he doesn't consider himself on the madreigeh of a baal nefesh.   And given this letter, I'm even more skeptical.
See this, this aligns well with what I've heard from multiple talmidim as well.
Rav Reuven told me clearly that a baal nefesh is a very high madreigah, and that he himself does not feel that he is holding there (approx. 5 years ago), but since people perceive him as being a real baal nefesh, he himself is machmir. And that for me, there is no reason to (unless they are basically the same price).
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4186 on: February 18, 2020, 04:53:19 PM »
If Rabbi Shmuel Felder saying a halacha why isn’t that reliable??
Are you another one of those jealous Lakewooders that can stand him??
Wow, seems like you're going through a rough time there.
Who said anything about Rav Shmuel Felder?
You can call me a "Jealous Lakewooder" if you so wish, but his hashkafos don't align with mine, and he's a smart and manipulative person, whom I don't want to hear his opinions.
He pushes people into corners to say and imply things they don't intend on saying, and then twists them more. Oh, and then the editing of the show is a whole nother disdiscussion.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4187 on: February 18, 2020, 05:27:09 PM »
Wow, seems like you're going through a rough time there.
Who said anything about Rav Shmuel Felder?
You can call me a "Jealous Lakewooder" if you so wish, but his hashkafos don't align with mine, and he's a smart and manipulative person, whom I don't want to hear his opinions.
He pushes people into corners to say and imply things they don't intend on saying, and then twists them more. Oh, and then the editing of the show is a whole nother disdiscussion.
If I remember correctly, on his show about CY/CS he has R Felder on.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4188 on: February 18, 2020, 06:08:32 PM »
Rav Reuven told me clearly that a baal nefesh is a very high madreigah, and that he himself does not feel that he is holding there (approx. 5 years ago), but since people perceive him as being a real baal nefesh, he himself is machmir. And that for me, there is no reason to (unless they are basically the same price).
This only started after R' Moshe was niftar.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4189 on: February 18, 2020, 06:58:04 PM »
He wrote that in 1954. In Igros Moshe Y"D 2-35 in 1970 he wrote in a much stronger way, urging yeshivos to give only CY even it's more expensive, because you need to be mechanech bnei torah this way (perhaps as CY became more accessible and wider distributed). I assume he brought up his 2 sons as bnei torah, therefore I'm skeptical when I hear that R' Ruven isn't makpid because he doesn't consider himself on the madreigeh of a baal nefesh.   And given this letter, I'm even more skeptical.
R Rueven says this in divrei shalom quite clearly

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4190 on: February 18, 2020, 07:24:08 PM »
but his hashkafos don't align with mine, and he's a smart and manipulative person, whom I don't want to hear his opinions.
He pushes people into corners to say and imply things they don't intend on saying, and then twists them more. Oh, and then the editing of the show is a whole nother disdiscussion.
+100000000000
I've heard well respected talmidei chachamim and kashrus experts make statements they knew to be false because he pushed them and manipulated their words. Quite frankly, he comes off as someone with a strong agenda and doesn't want to be confused with facts. Classic journalistic dishonesty.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4191 on: February 18, 2020, 07:30:34 PM »
+100000000000
I've heard well respected talmidei chachamim and kashrus experts make statements they knew to be false because he pushed them and manipulated their words. Quite frankly, he comes off as someone with a strong agenda and doesn't want to be confused with facts. Classic journalistic dishonesty.
And how would you define his agenda??
Can you give an example of a Talmid Chacham that said something knowingly false on the program?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4192 on: February 18, 2020, 07:36:01 PM »
And how would you define his agenda??
Can you give an example of a Talmid Chacham that said something knowingly false on the program?
That can mean that what was played on the show we false even though what they said was not. There is definitely manipulative editing done.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4193 on: February 18, 2020, 07:36:23 PM »
If Rabbi Shmuel Felder saying a halacha why isn’t that reliable??
Are you another one of those jealous Lakewooders that can stand him??
Are you okay?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4194 on: February 18, 2020, 07:39:58 PM »
He says baal nefesh yachmir, that means someone who is not a baal nefesh does not need to be machmir. ETA: this is assuming it's cheaper which it definitely is. I was there when R' Reuven got very upset about an ad put out by a cholov yisroel milk distributor saying that nowadays it's different.
What about when the OU published something saying that?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4195 on: February 18, 2020, 07:41:26 PM »
That just shows this:See this, this aligns well with what I've heard from multiple talmidim as well.
The language rauy lhachmir is in other contexts as well
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4196 on: February 18, 2020, 07:49:54 PM »
There have been other similar letters found as well. Each one was, like this one, promoting having cholov yisroel available for the public and not regarding an individual.

Um, in the מדריך לכשרות in תשלז he clearly says that individuals should be machmir.
אין מן הראוי להקל וצריכים להשיג
is pretty strong language...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4197 on: February 18, 2020, 07:54:42 PM »
What about when the OU published something saying that?
Link? I never heard anyone ask him about it.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4199 on: February 18, 2020, 08:10:06 PM »
Burich Hashem
So then please talk like a mentch.
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