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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 1120888 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4280 on: February 25, 2020, 07:15:07 PM »
I dont know all the details of the story and what yudel said and knew, but why are you assuming its political correctness false pretenses of lashon hora and not actual lashon hora and halacha that says eid echad ne'eman b'issurin?
So instead of just commenting, why don’t you listen to the story and we’ll meet back here  ;D
Do you think it’s lashon hora to speak ill about finkill?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4281 on: February 25, 2020, 07:15:44 PM »
How many other times was yudel motzei la'az on honest, innocent people?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4282 on: February 25, 2020, 07:16:53 PM »
So instead of just commenting, why don’t you listen to the story and we’ll meet back here  ;D
Do you think it’s lashon hora to speak ill about finkill?
I've seen enough of his propaganda, I have better things to do with my time.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4283 on: February 25, 2020, 07:17:17 PM »
How many other times was yudel motzei la'az on honest, innocent people?
I don’t know and not trying to prop him up as a tzaddik. Again my intention is if we can find out if there’s any concern about the procedures being performed on the cows. Zehu.
Nobody is forcing you to comment.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4284 on: February 25, 2020, 07:23:39 PM »
Do you think his story with Finkel the Chazir guy from Monsey is fabricated?
I think it very well may be. At the time I asked him a very simple question about it and caught him on what I had considered at the time to be a serious inconsistency. I don't remember all of the details.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4285 on: February 25, 2020, 07:26:59 PM »
I don’t. Thus I won’t regard myself as someone worthy to argue on a senior Kashrus official thats been ordained and recommended by some our greatest poskim.
I just brought in his opinion to our Cholov Yisroel discussion/debate.
He claims that Rav Belsky didn’t have a good answer for his finding. Are we allowed to investigate his claim at all or just brush him off. Remember he caught the finkel guy 8 years before he was busted. Had someone listened to him a whole lot of people wouldn’t have eaten nveila and traifa.
Thanks for trying to have an open mind about this and sorry again for sending you to your cardiologist  :) :)
Yet you have no issue with simply believing him over rabbonim who were accepted by all of klal Yisroel because he says so. Makes sense.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4286 on: February 25, 2020, 07:27:51 PM »
I don’t know and not trying to prop him up as a tzaddik. Again my intention is if we can find out if there’s any concern about the procedures being performed on the cows. Zehu.
Nobody is forcing you to comment.
Did you go through the tshuva from Rav Belsky?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4287 on: February 25, 2020, 07:32:19 PM »
Did you go through the tshuva from Rav Belsky?
No. Can you please refer to which tshuva it is? Thanks

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4288 on: February 25, 2020, 07:32:24 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4289 on: February 25, 2020, 07:37:24 PM »
No. Can you please refer to which tshuva it is? Thanks
It is in his sefer. So based on his say so you were ready to say that every hechsher that gives on cholov stam it giving treif yet you didn't bother to look for what Rav Belsky had to say on it? Seriously?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4290 on: February 25, 2020, 07:47:48 PM »
It is in his sefer. So based on his say so you were ready to say that every hechsher that gives on cholov stam it giving treif yet you didn't bother to look for what Rav Belsky had to say on it? Seriously?
You’re funny. When was this tshuva penned?? It’s the basics of Reb Moshe’s heter. Now there’s a new concern with the new ways farmers deal with their cattle.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4291 on: February 25, 2020, 07:54:41 PM »
You’re funny. When was this tshuva penned?? It’s the basics of Reb Moshe’s heter. Now there’s a new concern with the new ways farmers deal with their cattle.
This is not a new issue, I believe this came up while R' Moshe was alive.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4292 on: February 25, 2020, 07:58:02 PM »
This is not a new issue, I believe this came up while R' Moshe was alive.
The way the procedure is done and the percentage of cows being treated is the concern nowadays

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4293 on: February 25, 2020, 08:00:00 PM »
The way the procedure is done and the percentage of cows being treated is the concern nowadays
Is there any reason to believe something changed? The boy who cried wolf has no ne'emanus.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4294 on: February 25, 2020, 08:01:01 PM »
Did you hear the story about him and finkel?
sigh, yes

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4295 on: February 25, 2020, 08:04:20 PM »
You’re funny. When was this tshuva penned?? It’s the basics of Reb Moshe’s heter. Now there’s a new concern with the new ways farmers deal with their cattle.

Did you even try? You have lost all credibility.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4296 on: February 25, 2020, 08:06:58 PM »
The way the procedure is done and the percentage of cows being treated is the concern nowadays
So says Yudel Shain.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4297 on: February 25, 2020, 08:09:47 PM »
So says Yudel Shain.
Hence



Is there any reason to believe something changed? The boy who cried wolf has no ne'emanus.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4298 on: February 25, 2020, 08:37:08 PM »
It is in his sefer. So based on his say so you were ready to say that every hechsher that gives on cholov stam it giving treif yet you didn't bother to look for what Rav Belsky had to say on it? Seriously?

You’re funny. When was this tshuva penned?? It’s the basics of Reb Moshe’s heter. Now there’s a new concern with the new ways farmers deal with their cattle.

Let me help you. I suggest you read the entire teshuva (and the next)
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4299 on: February 25, 2020, 09:01:44 PM »
I don’t. Thus I won’t regard myself as someone worthy to argue on a senior Kashrus official thats been ordained and recommended by some our greatest poskim.
thanks for the laugh
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