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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 974364 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5460 on: October 11, 2022, 09:20:17 PM »
it’s only a safety issue if I am in the sukkah.
It is a heavy metal porch roof that is lifted up but I need to add a bolt to properly Secure it so it does not fall down if it gets windy. If it falls it may collapse the frame it is own.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5461 on: October 11, 2022, 10:52:18 PM »
Is it permissible to tie schach down to 2x4’s ?
My brother mentioned over yomtov that its a machlokes (don't know details) if it's good to tie it down with twine. but if you put a 2x4 or something else that's kosher on top of the schach which is heavy enough to hold it down for a ruach metzua then according to everyone it's good.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5462 on: October 12, 2022, 12:20:25 AM »
it’s only a safety issue if I am in the sukkah.
It is a heavy metal porch roof that is lifted up but I need to add a bolt to properly Secure it so it does not fall down if it gets windy. If it falls it may collapse the frame it is on.
Is that a maaseh uman?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5463 on: October 16, 2022, 02:49:21 PM »
I have construction workers at a site that I own I gave them a holiday schedule and explicitly instructed them not conduct any on site work during the holidays, I suspect that they might still be working am I supposed to do whatever I can to ensure that they don't or once I instructed them I should be okay?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5464 on: October 16, 2022, 03:07:47 PM »
I have construction workers at a site that I own I gave them a holiday schedule and explicitly instructed them not conduct any on site work during the holidays, I suspect that they might still be working am I supposed to do whatever I can to ensure that they don't or once I instructed them I should be okay?
Supposed to do whatever you can…  also any work done won’t have Siman bracha.. maybe tell them if you find out they worked they won’t get paid…

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5465 on: October 18, 2022, 09:23:47 PM »
Supposed to do whatever you can…  also any work done won’t have Siman bracha.. maybe tell them if you find out they worked they won’t get paid…
So apparently they interpreted my instructions of no work on Oct 9-18 as in October 9 and October 18.
They did work throughout the week (1 day Yom tov [שני] and chol hamoed)
Is there בכדי שיעשו ? Or what is the rectification?
Of course I'll be calling my LOR as well
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5466 on: October 18, 2022, 09:40:10 PM »
So apparently they interpreted my instructions of no work on Oct 9-18 as in October 9 and October 18.
They did work throughout the week (1 day Yom tov [שני] and chol hamoed)
Is there בכדי שיעשו ? Or what is the rectification?
Of course I'll be calling my LOR as well
Are you their direct boss?
Are they being paid for their time or for their work?
If it's kablanus than it's easier.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5467 on: October 18, 2022, 09:45:38 PM »
Are you their direct boss?
Are they being paid for their time or for their work?
If it's kablanus than it's easier.
Either way see או״ח סימן רמ״ד ג and specifically the רמ״א.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5468 on: October 18, 2022, 09:50:49 PM »
So apparently they interpreted my instructions of no work on Oct 9-18 as in October 9 and October 18.
They did work throughout the week (1 day Yom tov [שני] and chol hamoed)
Is there בכדי שיעשו ? Or what is the rectification?
Of course I'll be calling my LOR as well
Seems like it’s a schir yom type which is worse. Even then, since they went against your instructions it may be no problem, although it’s not clear cut that this heter would apply by a schir yom, IMHO I would say it does… then there’s another question, which is your feeling that they wouldn’t listen, which may make you a poshea, and then you wouldn’t  have that heter… again not clear cut how much you have to go out of your way to stop him in order for you to be called a poshea… worst case would be bechdei sheyasu if it’s for someone else, but if it’s for you it may be really problematic… then you may want to get a soft hearted Posek…

Edit. Seems like according to R”M Feinstein that heter applies to a schir yom as well. In regards to the question if you would be a poshea since you weren’t sure if they would listen, R Wosner holds as long as you weren’t sure they wouldn’t listen, you are good to go. So seems like you are good, but ask your LOR.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5469 on: October 18, 2022, 09:53:00 PM »
Either way see או״ח סימן רמ״ד ג and specifically the רמ״א.
Mishna berurah s”k yud tes says the mechaber which that Rama is on is only talking about kablonus, so not clear cut that this heter would apply by a schir yom…

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5470 on: October 18, 2022, 09:59:40 PM »
It's a cost+ contractor. I believe that's considered kablunes.
I see that the m"a differentiates between them doing it for their own benefit or for the customers benefit, this can be hard to determine, at the end of the day whatever a contractor does is for the customers benefit.

Regarding my feeling of them not listening, it was that I saw on Chol hamoed some emails with suppliers, I was out of town, but then on hoshana Raba it was confirmed to me by someone who passed by the site that he saw them working. I immediately contacted them and they explained their mistake and assured me that no work will be done second days.

As far as I know I had no suspicion or reason to believe that they did not adhere to my instructions and worked on Rosh Hashanah or Yom kippur.

In the worst case scenario, does some work done באיסור render the entire house אסור? (It's a extension/rénovation job)

Does it make any difference that it was on יו"ט שני / חול המועד?

If בכדי שיעשו is applicable, does that apply specifically to the parts of the work done or do they need to cease working on the entire project?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5471 on: October 18, 2022, 10:07:39 PM »
It's a cost+ contractor. I believe that's considered kablunes.
I see that the m"a differentiates between them doing it for their own benefit or for the customers benefit, this can be hard to determine, at the end of the day whatever a contractor does is for the customers benefit.

Regarding my feeling of them not listening, it was that I saw on Chol hamoed some emails with suppliers, I was out of town, but then on hoshana Raba it was confirmed to me by someone who passed by the site that he saw them working. I immediately contacted them and they explained their mistake and assured me that no work will be done second days.

As far as I know I had no suspicion or reason to believe that they did not adhere to my instructions and worked on Rosh Hashanah or Yom kippur.

In the worst case scenario, does some work done באיסור render the entire house אסור? (It's a extension/rénovation job)

Does it make any difference that it was on יו"ט שני / חול המועד?

If בכדי שיעשו is applicable, does that apply specifically to the parts of the work done or do they need to cease working on the entire project?
I edited my earlier post. You should be ok.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5472 on: October 18, 2022, 10:10:47 PM »
I edited my earlier post. You should be ok.
What makes you think it's considered שכיר יום?

Can you please share the two tshuvos you referenced?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5473 on: October 18, 2022, 10:21:19 PM »
What makes you think it's considered שכיר יום?

Can you please share the two tshuvos you referenced?
I didn’t think so, I just assumed so from the way you asked your question, but after seeing what you wrote recently I’m unsure.

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שבט הלוי ח״ט סי׳ קל this is less clear as he says נכון להחמיר and may only be talking about קבלנות. But using the R”M Feinstein, I would imagine it would be fine because there wouldn’t be לפני עור…

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5474 on: October 18, 2022, 10:28:40 PM »
I didn’t think so, I just assumed so from the way you asked your question, but after seeing what you wrote recently I’m unsure.

אג״מ או״ח ח״ג סי׳ לה
שבט הלוי ח״ט סי׳ קל this is less clear as he says נכון להחמיר and may only be talking about קבלנות. But using the R”M Feinstein, I would imagine it would be fine because there wouldn’t be לפני עור…
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https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1419&st=&pgnum=127&hilite=
He's talking about Chol hamoed but using the same argument.

I don't have an אג"מ handy and couldn't find this volume on Hebrew books.

Either way it appears that בכדי שיעשו isn't relevant
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5475 on: October 18, 2022, 10:31:34 PM »
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https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1419&st=&pgnum=127&hilite=
He's talking about Chol hamoed but using the same argument.

I don't have an אג"מ handy and couldn't find this volume on Hebrew books.

Either way it appears that בכדי שיעשו isn't relevant
Keep us updated with what your LOR says…

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5476 on: October 18, 2022, 10:33:30 PM »
Keep us updated with what your LOR says…
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5477 on: October 19, 2022, 05:27:52 AM »
Is it muttar to open an air bnb account which requires a commitment not to judge anybody based off of their "orientation"
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5478 on: October 19, 2022, 06:03:51 AM »
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I agree to treat everyone in the Airbnb community—regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, skin colour, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, or age—with respect, and without judgment or bias.
they are basically asking the impossible. dont be a human being. i think that its safe to assume that absolutely no one who opens a bnb actually fufills these requirements so you dont need to fulfill them either...

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« Reply #5479 on: October 19, 2022, 06:38:14 AM »
they are basically asking the impossible. dont be a human being. i think that its safe to assume that absolutely no one who opens a bnb actually fufills these requirements so you dont need to fulfill them either...
but is agreeing to such a statement problematic.
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