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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 878997 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5780 on: June 30, 2023, 09:47:16 AM »
The מאורי אור says that the breaks in our Chumash were made by am haratzim.



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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5781 on: June 30, 2023, 09:47:51 AM »
and didn't suggest changing it afaik.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5782 on: June 30, 2023, 11:22:40 AM »
My 6 year old son was making kiddush shabbos day and he started reading kiddush of ליל שבת from the bentcher. DW shushed him and directed him to the right kiddush.
I was thinking that he technically should be be saying kiddush of friday night, as he doesn't stay up for the Friday night meal. Never heard that done though. Anyone have a reason why not?

I know of a Shliach who does Friday night kiddush by day at the kiddush, because many attendees did not make kiddush the night before. He also makes havdalah for people up until Tuesday.

One reason I might say your *child* shouldn't do it is because it might get confusing. He has no chiyuv, it is done altz chinuch. Being mechanech him to make Friday night kiddush by day is an interesting chinuch.


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5783 on: June 30, 2023, 11:32:08 AM »
I know of a Shliach who does Friday night kiddush by day at the kiddush, because many attendees did not make kiddush the night before. He also makes havdalah for people up until Tuesday.

One reason I might say your *child* shouldn't do it is because it might get confusing. He has no chiyuv, it is done altz chinuch. Being mechanech him to make Friday night kiddush by day is an interesting chinuch.
Interesting that you say that. A musmach of Rav Dovid Feinstein Z"L was discussing bentching on mezonos pizza for his son with him. Rav Dovid told him the boy should wash on one slice because that is his normal amount. Then he added, "You can't do that if you are eating one slice next to him and making mezonos. If he washes, you either wash and eat enough or don't eat!"
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5784 on: June 30, 2023, 11:40:37 AM »
I asked around a bit about my kiddush question. A big TC I consulted with told me we dont do it. I told him Im looking for a real reason, not what we do, if I start doing it itll be become what we do in my fam and problem solved.

Anyway, he said a svara that if hes not up for kiddush of night hes not נשתייך to it in הלכות חינוך or something like that. I responded that hes up after plag which technically is a zman which is ראוי לקידוש. He answered that if thats the case he should be making his own kiddush by plag! I may start doing that.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5785 on: June 30, 2023, 11:46:17 AM »
I asked around a bit about my kiddush question. A big TC I consulted with told me we dont do it. I told him Im looking for a real reason, not what we do, if I start doing it itll be become what we do in my fam and problem solved.

Anyway, he said a svara that if hes not up for kiddush of night hes not נשתייך to it in הלכות חינוך or something like that. I responded that hes up after plag which technically is a zman which is ראוי לקידוש. He answered that if thats the case he should be making his own kiddush by plag! I may start doing that.
Does that mean he's mekabel shabbos before you?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5786 on: June 30, 2023, 11:55:26 AM »
Does that mean he's mekabel shabbos before you?
I guess so

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5787 on: June 30, 2023, 12:04:36 PM »
I asked around a bit about my kiddush question. A big TC I consulted with told me we dont do it. I told him Im looking for a real reason, not what we do, if I start doing it itll be become what we do in my fam and problem solved.

Anyway, he said a svara that if hes not up for kiddush of night hes not נשתייך to it in הלכות חינוך or something like that. I responded that hes up after plag which technically is a zman which is ראוי לקידוש. He answered that if thats the case he should be making his own kiddush by plag! I may start doing that.

"What we do" *is* a real reason.

That case I mentioned above who makes havdalah until Tuesday for people and Friday night kiddush by day? Well, it does cause mocking and leitzanus from kids and people who are becoming more observant. When there is a shiur on a Monday night that starts with Havdalah, people laugh and you run the risk of turning havdalah into a joke, and/or the person doing it becomes the but of the joke.

When your kid goes to another house and hears regular day-time kiddush and not the Friday night kiddush he is accustomed to, you can't be sure how that will affect him. Is he going to brush it off, or is he going to feel awkward that he is "different" and start thinking of you as someone with OCD tendencies?

My son used to make kiddush before going to bed Friday night. We made like a mini shabbos seudah.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5788 on: June 30, 2023, 12:10:12 PM »
When your kid goes to another house and hears regular day-time kiddush and not the Friday night kiddush he is accustomed to, you can't be sure how that will affect him. Is he going to brush it off, or is he going to feel awkward that he is "different" and start thinking of you as someone with OCD tendencies?
This would not be an issue because he hears me make regular day kiddush every week. If Id tell him to say the night kiddish in his personal one, Id explain to him that its because he missed it last night.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5789 on: July 02, 2023, 01:14:04 PM »
My son used to make kiddush before going to bed Friday night. We made like a mini shabbos seudah.
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The kids take turns making kiddush and hamotzei and they love it.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5790 on: July 03, 2023, 10:03:32 PM »
Are we all gilgulim, or are some of us first timers?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5791 on: July 03, 2023, 10:05:34 PM »
Are we all gilgulim, or are some of us first timers?
Lmai nafka mina? Either way we have to do our best in Avodas Hashem.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5792 on: July 03, 2023, 10:15:05 PM »
Are we all gilgulim, or are some of us first timers?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5793 on: July 03, 2023, 10:18:19 PM »
Lmai nafka mina? Either way we have to do our best in Avodas Hashem.
Oh you must of thought I was asking a Halacha Shaila. Tiffeh Questions dont need nafka minas

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5794 on: July 03, 2023, 10:18:58 PM »
Those who know don't say those who say don't know
You can say you dont know ;)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5795 on: July 03, 2023, 10:36:00 PM »
Belongs in hashkafah thread IMO.

Once there my question would be what's the purpose of gilgulim. People have to come on to it to answer why tzadikim suffer. But other than that what's the purpose in guaranteeing success?

As for your question idk and never looked into it.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5796 on: July 03, 2023, 10:37:21 PM »
Belongs in hashkafah thread IMO.
Disagree. Its a Tiffeh question, not hashkafic.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5797 on: July 03, 2023, 10:38:15 PM »
Disagree. Its a Tiffeh question, not hashkafic.
Disagree on this :)
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5798 on: July 03, 2023, 10:39:16 PM »
Disagree. Its a Tiffeh question, not hashkafic.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5799 on: July 03, 2023, 10:54:06 PM »
Once there my question would be what's the purpose of gilgulim.
To rectify the soul.