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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 1012225 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6100 on: April 27, 2024, 09:53:51 PM »
Do you say Migdol (as opposed to Magdil) in Bentching by Melave Malka?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6101 on: April 27, 2024, 09:57:31 PM »
Do you say Migdol (as opposed to Magdil) in Bentching by Melave Malka?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6102 on: April 27, 2024, 10:03:05 PM »
YMMV your minhag may vary
My entire life, I've always said Magdil. I just saw for the first time today, a Bentcher which says you say Migdol...
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6103 on: April 28, 2024, 12:57:44 AM »
What I heard from an adom gadol: The pasuk appears in 2 places: In Tehillim 18:51 it appears as mAgdil, in Shmuel B 22:51 it appears as mIgdal. In old bentchers/siddurim it said it as mAgdil and in parenthesis בש"ב מִגְדּ֖וֹל because of how it appears in Shmuel B. Eventually by mistake בש"ב got changed to בשבת, but it has no halachic significance.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6104 on: April 28, 2024, 01:09:44 AM »
What I heard from an adom gadol: The pasuk appears in 2 places: In Tehillim 18:51 it appears as mAgdil, in Shmuel B 22:51 it appears as mIgdal. In old bentchers/siddurim it said it as mAgdil and in parenthesis בש"ב מִגְדּ֖וֹל because of how it appears in Shmuel B. Eventually by mistake בש"ב got changed to בשבת, but it has no halachic significance.
Who's the Adam Gadol?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6105 on: April 28, 2024, 01:19:37 AM »
What I heard from an adom gadol: The pasuk appears in 2 places: In Tehillim 18:51 it appears as mAgdil, in Shmuel B 22:51 it appears as mIgdal. In old bentchers/siddurim it said it as mAgdil and in parenthesis בש"ב מִגְדּ֖וֹל because of how it appears in Shmuel B. Eventually by mistake בש"ב got changed to בשבת, but it has no halachic significance.

Lol, that's one of Reb Boruch Epstein's genius inventions but not factually true. 

The Mekor is a אבודרהם and then brought down by the major poskim. At the times of the אבודרהם, Shmuel wasn't divided yet into two portions, so it's a brilliant but foolish theory.  ;D
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6107 on: April 28, 2024, 01:34:02 AM »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6108 on: April 28, 2024, 01:44:50 AM »
Lol, that's one of Reb Boruch Epstein's genius inventions but not factually true. 

The Mekor is a אבודרהם and then brought down by the major poskim. At the times of the אבודרהם, Shmuel wasn't divided yet into two portions, so it's a brilliant but foolish theory.  ;D
It could have been בש' without the last ב
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6109 on: April 28, 2024, 01:47:21 AM »
Lol, that's one of Reb Boruch Epstein's genius inventions but not factually true. 

The Mekor is a אבודרהם and then brought down by the major poskim. At the times of the אבודרהם, Shmuel wasn't divided yet into two portions, so it's a brilliant but foolish theory.  ;D
So why would Reb Boruch Epstein write that?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6110 on: April 28, 2024, 01:52:14 AM »
It could have been בש' without the last ב

What could have been?? The אבודרהם was before the invention of the printed press, so not a difference anyway. (Besides for the lunacy of attributing a silly mistake to what a Rishon writes and gives Taamim for, besides for the Shlah and brought down by the leading Achronim)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6111 on: April 28, 2024, 01:53:38 AM »
So why would Reb Boruch Epstein write that?

You should ask that from him. (Given what else he wrote, this is not such a big question to begin with)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6112 on: April 28, 2024, 02:11:46 AM »
You should ask that from him. (Given what else he wrote, this is not such a big question to begin with)
what else did he write?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6113 on: April 28, 2024, 02:15:21 AM »
Curios if any of you guys know the answer.

 Don't know the answer to the riddle. But I checked on otzar hachachma and it's from shomer tziyon hane'eman which was a kovetz put out by the oruch li'ner. dg



https://tablet.otzar.org/#/b/14374/p/403/t/1714283521086/fs/6vUYJlAfEShDiF9yPqEELHojax0I195V0n4R07HHbG2l/start/0/end/3/c/1714283834103

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6114 on: April 28, 2024, 04:29:51 AM »
Curios if any of you guys know the answer.

 Don't know the answer to the riddle. But I checked on otzar hachachma and it's from shomer tziyon hane'eman which was a kovetz put out by the oruch li'ner. dg



https://tablet.otzar.org/#/b/14374/p/403/t/1714283521086/fs/6vUYJlAfEShDiF9yPqEELHojax0I195V0n4R07HHbG2l/start/0/end/3/c/1714283834103

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6115 on: April 28, 2024, 12:38:17 PM »
what else did he write?
That hisnagdus saved chassidus and thus everything he says is pasul
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6116 on: April 28, 2024, 01:37:12 PM »
That hisnagdus saved chassidus and thus everything he says is pasul

Lol, just say you have no clue :P .  (Can generally serve you well)

Happens to be that point is not the one I necessarily disagree with... It's his weird and fantasy pirushim on the Parsha,-famously on the Maakos, on minhagim, he loves to find "mistakes" on what the rishonim wrote and plagiarizes other's chidushim as well. Rav Aaron said that the good thing about his chumash is when you skip a page by mistake it's nothing to cry over. (which is somewhat interesting, because his style and issues put aside, he still did a phenomenal work in Torah Temima, given the genius he was.)
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6117 on: April 28, 2024, 02:01:51 PM »
Lol, just say you have no clue :P .  (Can generally serve you well)

Happens to be that point is not the one I necessarily disagree with... It's his weird and fantasy pirushim on the Parsha,-famously on the Maakos, on minhagim, he loves to find "mistakes" on what the rishonim wrote and plagiarizes other's chidushim as well. Rav Aaron said that the good thing about his chumash is when you skip a page by mistake it's nothing to cry over. (which is somewhat interesting, because his style and issues put aside, he still did a phenomenal work in Torah Temima, given the genius he was.)
So it's just 'interesting'. But not like Apikorsus ch'v.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6118 on: April 28, 2024, 02:09:15 PM »
So it's just 'interesting'. But not like Apikorsus ch'v.

Correct, I don't think anyone accuses him of such, just his daring and weird (and sometimes foolish) stuff. His Mekor Baruch is legendary but not taken too serious either.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6119 on: April 28, 2024, 02:13:37 PM »
Correct, I don't thing anyone accuses him of such, just his daring and weird (and sometimes foolish) stuff. His Mekor Baruch is legendary but not taken too serious.
I see he has Choshuve Yichus. R' Mechel Yechiel Epstein ZT'L was his father, Mechaber of the Aruch HaShulchan.
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