All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions

[avromie7]

Well, you cannot prove that he’s talking about over the beged based on a question that applies just the same your way.

If the beged is over the shirt, it's either corners or pants and he decries pants and says corners are better. If the beged is under the shirt, it's either leave them in pants or put them in the corner while still being in the pants. What would you gain by also putting them in the corners? They're still in pants.

[imayid2]

Please explain where you see that, and how the Gemara can possibly be discussing strings in pants.

[imayid2]

@avromie7 any reason why this shouldn’t apply equally to someone wearing the beged in?

[imayid2]

Uses the drasha of אין ציצית אלא יוצא.

Also only talking about if sticking into the corners but if all hidden in the pants he’d be totally and completely cool with it?

[avromie7]

bachutz of the beged, what makes you think he's saying bachutz of pants? Rashi says the Gemara is saying it must be a fringe off the corner of the beged and the MGA tries to extend that to disallow strings tucked into the corner of the beged because they don't come off the corner like a fringe. This is completely irrelevant to pants.

@avromie7 any reason why this shouldn’t apply equally to someone wearing the beged in?

This is the same as the MB he decries hiding the tzitzis, but there's no indication that that applies to us who for whatever reason keep the beged inside our shirt. Once that's ok, it's not "hiding" to not take the strings out.

Uses the drasha of אין ציצית אלא יוצא.

Also only talking about if sticking into the corners but if all hidden in the pants he’d be totally and completely cool with it?

I think @shulem92 mentioned that it's common to be referred to as teluyin umegulin because they were only talking about people who wear the beged out and that was the way to refer to it.

As I said before, the Gemara about yotzei definitely can't be compared to when the beged is under the shirt.

In summary, there are 2 common complaints.
1. Not to put the strings in the corners which the MGA doesn't like because of yotzei.
2. Not to hide the strings because of bushah as it's a bizayon to take the mitzvah and hide it. There is no indication this is talking about us who wear the beged in. I'm not sure why we wear the beged under our shirts, but not sticking the strings out is not the same as sticking them in.

[imayid2]

Not saying that I agree, but I see the points you’re making and appreciate the time and effort you put into writing it all out clearly. Thanks!

[Willie]

Anyone get psak from their rav on if they can change their gender on geico for lower rate?

[yungermanchik]

Anyone get psak from their rav on if they can change their gender on geico for lower rate?

My LOR said that while it's not assur, it's definitely Mechuar HaDavar

[PaternalPrince]

My LOR said that while it's not assur, it's definitely Mechuar HaDavar

I didn't think you needed to be a rabbi to see that

[mevinyavin]

I didn't think you needed to be a rabbi to see that

Sometimes you do. For some, they stop listening after the word 'muttar.'

[lover of truth]

Anyone get psak from their rav on if they can change their gender on geico for lower rate?

if you retain gender regarding other  things is definetly geneivah
paskened by an amhaaretz

[yfr bachur]

if you retain gender regarding other  things is definetly geneivah
paskened by an amhaaretz

Why? It's all imaginary self Id'ing anyway...
Why cant someone ID as a driver of a different gender?
"In my car identify as bi, For the restroom male (no lines), and for sports female"
As one am haaretz to another...
Though I think the the question shows quasi-acceptance of the sickness that is the modern world, and I wouldn't do that for any money

@mods
I think the last few post should be moved to JS.... or this board may get blocked by netfree.

[shmooz]

Anyone get psak from their rav on if they can change their gender on geico for lower rate?

Rabbi breitowitz had this on one of his qa, he says it's Geneiva, and ziuf hatorah, there is only one gender for you. IIRC.

[yfr bachur]

Rabbi breitowitz had this on one of his qa, he says it's Geneiva, and ziuf hatorah, there is only one gender. IIRC.

Can't believe that I'm defending this...
Why in the world is it gneiva?
The IC is basicaly saying that if you declare that you have mental confusion about gender, we will give you a discount.
The point that whole stupid woke crowd that pushes the GF agenda is that gender is internal to a persons brain, and not external.

[sds1493]

Can't believe that I'm defending this...
Why in the world is it gneiva?
The IC is basicaly saying that if you declare that you have mental confusion about gender, we will give you a discount.
The point that whole stupid woke crowd that pushes the GF agenda is that gender is internal to a persons brain, and not external.

Do you have mental confusion? If not then you achieving a discount through lying.

[Moshe Green]

Do you have mental confusion? If not then you achieving a discount through lying.

I would actually take yfr bachurs side on this.

They aren't giving you a discount because of some actual real reason (confused people drive safer etc.) its because they have some stupid progressive idea they are trying to push. By picking their choice you get a discount that they technically give to anyone, as long as they click that box.

[yfr bachur]

Do you have mental confusion? If not then you achieving a discount through lying.

I have other problems with this situation, and I am not advocating doing it.
The specific charge of gneiva I don't see.

Lets change the case.
What if a store offers a discount to Mets fans. All you have to do to get the discount is say you're such? Is it gneiva for a Yankees fan to avail himself to the discount?

[aygart]

I would actually take yfr bachurs side on this.

They aren't giving you a discount because of some actual real reason (confused people drive safer etc.) its because they have some stupid progressive idea they are trying to push. By picking their choice you get a discount that they technically give to anyone, as long as they click that box.

If you read the thread about it you will see that it is unlikely that this is true, but rather the difference is entirely in the actuarial calculations.

[yfr bachur]

If you read the thread about it you will see that it is unlikely that this is true, but rather the difference is entirely in the actuarial calculations.

Is there even enough data for that?
Hard to believe.

[aygart]

Is there even enough data for that?
Hard to believe.

I took a look at a few of GEICO’s rate filings in NJ. It is interesting that they are applying the same factor for “X” and “F” genders (magnitude differs by age and coverage) . I had thought they’d use an average of both genders for “X”. I wonder if this is intentional.  I do not know offhand if other states have similar treatment, but some ban the use of gender in rating. I will take a more detailed look if I have time.

Note that using the wrong gender to obtain a discount is likely a form of insurance fraud.

As discussed there, this explains the variations by age/location/gender