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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tefilla Questions  (Read 1236706 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6500 on: January 18, 2025, 09:51:09 PM »
Enamel coated pots are generally toiveled without a bracha. How is this any different?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6501 on: January 18, 2025, 10:10:20 PM »
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Not exactly sure why they require a bracha.
See Sefer טבילת כלים on this and I believe that this is the common position on this. OU ,Star-k….

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6502 on: January 18, 2025, 10:29:39 PM »
Not exactly sure why they require a bracha.
See Sefer טבילת כלים on this and I believe that this is the common position on this. OU ,Star-k….
let's get to the bottom of this.

https://askcrc.org/item/FAQs/677304
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Q. My Rabbi thought you might have some information about the enamel coatings on ovens if they are cheress or glass or mostly metal? A. They are glass-coated steel. Ground/powdered glass (or sometimes, liquefied glass) is sprayed onto the steel, and then it is put into a kiln at about 1500° F. The heat fuses the steel and glass together (in two layers), and gives the two of them properties that they didn't have beforehand. In particular, the glass cannot crack or be scratched, and it can withstand high temperatures and many caustics/soaps.
If this is true then it should seem to requires a bracha. Does anyone dispute the metzious? What would be the reason not to make a bracha?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6503 on: January 18, 2025, 10:38:54 PM »
let's get to the bottom of this.

https://askcrc.org/item/FAQs/677304If this is true then it should seem to requires a bracha. Does anyone dispute the metzious? What would be the reason not to make a bracha?
If this would be the case that the coating is made of pure glass then it’s obvious that it would require a bracha but in most places I saw the poskim were at least מסופק if the source is or at least it contains clay-חרס

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6504 on: January 18, 2025, 11:01:41 PM »
If this would be the case that the coating is made of pure glass then it’s obvious that it would require a bracha but in most places I saw the poskim were at least מסופק if the source is or at least it contains clay-חרס
So seems they didn't know and CRC found out. Great, settled.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6505 on: January 18, 2025, 11:06:09 PM »
So seems they didn't know and CRC found out. Great, settled.
Might be. Will have to look into it again.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6506 on: January 19, 2025, 12:31:22 AM »
And i still got questioned at the mikvah for making a bracha on toiveling my Cast Iron pot.  Gives me a nasty look and says nooo bracha!  Though you clearly see some exposed metal and some coated metal.
I've found that many people have no clue about what does or doesn't need a bracha and just don't make one.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6507 on: January 19, 2025, 01:18:35 AM »
I've found that many people have no clue about what does or doesn't need a bracha and just don't make one.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6508 on: January 19, 2025, 07:29:28 AM »
Enamel coated pots are generally toiveled without a bracha. How is this any different?
cast iron vs enamel????????

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6510 on: January 30, 2025, 09:16:10 AM »
Treif! the sun revolves around the earth!!  ;)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6511 on: January 30, 2025, 09:18:27 AM »
Treif! the sun revolves around the earth!!  ;)
Knew someone would post that!  ;D

You know how long it took me to explain to the meishiv in my chaburah my problem with pashut pshat in the gemara in eruvin that discusses how to be merabei a city lefi ruchos haolam by looking at the star in the north of  the city and the star in the south of the city? Some people in the chaburah never got the issue "if the gemara says that theres a star in the south, there must be a star there..."
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6512 on: January 30, 2025, 10:37:19 AM »
Treif! the sun revolves around the earth!!  ;)

So display that using this set! I am buying this set to show exactly that!
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6515 on: January 30, 2025, 12:03:19 PM »
Treif! the sun revolves around the earth!!  ;)
IINM Technicaly, it travels under the rakia, then through the rakia, then behind the rokia back to where it started from...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6516 on: January 30, 2025, 12:48:34 PM »
So display that using this set! I am buying this set to show exactly that!
How?

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« Reply #6517 on: January 30, 2025, 12:55:08 PM »
IINM Technicaly, it travels under the rakia, then through the rakia, then behind the rokia back to where it started from...
Under the earth

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6518 on: January 30, 2025, 02:34:35 PM »
How?

By holding the earth in one place and moving the sun.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #6519 on: January 30, 2025, 03:38:38 PM »
Under the earth
Vaguely remember it being a machlokes amoraim if it goes behind the rakia or under the earth