All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions

[Ergel]

August 2014

[yesitsme]

Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?

[Work-for-ur-muny]

Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?

I'm not a rav, but according to what I was taught if it was seen by a non-Jew you may drink it but not make kiddush on it. If it was touched by them (even the bottle) then it should not be drunk at all. But again, I would suggest you consult your rav re the shailah.

[TimT]

I'm not a rav, but according to what I was taught if it was seen by a non-Jew you may drink it but not make kiddush on it. If it was touched by them (even the bottle) then it should not be drunk at all. But again, I would suggest you consult your rav re the shailah.

And if you're not sure if they touched it ?

[ADG]

Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?

There is a difference between drinking it and making kidush... forsure wouldnt make kiddush on it...

[incendia]

And if you're not sure if they touched it ?

suffeake d'rabonim le'kula

[beeweegee]

When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?

[Work-for-ur-muny]

When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?

I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.

[thaber]

Non mevushal grape juice open bottle was left on table while cleaning lady was home, is it יין נסך? are you allowed to drink it/make kiddush?

Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV

[ADG]

When one eats Mezonos and Shehakol together (e.g. danish and milk) and finishes the Mezonos first, I have heard that some hold that the Al Hamichya and Borei Nefashos should be made at the same time, so one should wait until he finishes the milk and then say both. I know many dont hold this way, but does anyone know the source for this?

If u made s shehakol and mezonnos. Then why does it make a diference when u make the separate after-blessings?

[moish]

Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV

they are??

[yochiek93]

If u made s shehakol and mezonnos. Then why does it make a diference when u make the separate after-blessings?

I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.

[yochiek93]

Chabad minhag is much more machmir on this than others, so it's really a YMMV

care to explain

[thaber]

they are??

care to explain

this video - is the chabad position.
http://chabadinfo.com/video/non-mevushal-wine-touched-by-a-non-jew/

This would be the standard position:
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-InsightsFromTheInstitute-Fall09.htm

And, having discussed with poskim, even if circumstantially one can show that hte non Jew did not pour the unsealed bottle of wine it is, bedieved mutar. Not to use for kiddush etc is, to my knowledge, exclusively minhag chabad.

[avromie7]

this video - is the chabad position.
http://chabadinfo.com/video/non-mevushal-wine-touched-by-a-non-jew/

This would be the standard position:
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-InsightsFromTheInstitute-Fall09.htm

And, having discussed with poskim, even if circumstantially one can show that hte non Jew did not pour the unsealed bottle of wine it is, bedieved mutar. Not to use for kiddush etc is, to my knowledge, exclusively minhag chabad.

that explains it. i was wondering why i never heard of it

[beeweegee]

I don't know the source, but the reason is simple. If you make an al hamichya before you finish the milk it deems the seudah to be complete and would therefore require a new beracha shehakol on the milk as the beginning of a new seudah. Since making this new shehakol is a safek (as you have in reality NOT finished the "milk" part of the seuda) it is ruled that you should complete your entire seuda all at once, and make all the required berachos achronos at the same time.

Right. Looking for the source, though.

[Freddie]

Nogei l'maaseh b'poel...

You know how you're not supposed to eat food that was under a bed at night? Well, how do you think that applies or does not apply to a lie-flat seat. If it makes any difference, in my particular case, it wasn't even a good lie-flat! It was a VS "upper class" dumb thing where you have to get out of it and stand up to turn it into a lie-flat.

[username]

Steipler was makpid that food that ppl brought to him from chu"l, he would inquire if they slept over it on the plane.

But...
1. I cannot verify
2. Maybe just a chumra

[PTU]

Nogei l'maaseh b'poel...

You know how you're not supposed to eat food that was under a bed at night? Well, how do you think that applies or does not apply to a lie-flat seat. If it makes any difference, in my particular case, it wasn't even a good lie-flat! It was a VS "upper class" dumb thing where you have to get out of it and stand up to turn it into a lie-flat.

There are multiple variables.

Was the food sealed?
Can you wash the food? - fruit or a sandwich?
This is a bed that is not used for couples?


If you answer yes to those then I would say its fine. ( wash it) ...

Disclaimer; you asked the internet for a psak, so you that's exactly what this is.

[Freddie]

Sealed makes it okay? Never heard that. Yeah, it was all packaged food.