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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 961493 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #620 on: July 05, 2015, 03:52:26 PM »
Rav Shlomo Zalman held that you make shehakol on grape juice
not true
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #621 on: July 05, 2015, 04:00:34 PM »
Hey, this guy has a similar name to yours. Do you know him?
i bet you just outed him  ;D ;D
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #622 on: July 05, 2015, 04:01:45 PM »
i bet you just outed him  ;D ;D
I would say he outed himself. not for the first time either, but its been a while

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #623 on: July 05, 2015, 05:22:22 PM »
Source?
Update : mishna Berura 566:3.  Sefer hachasidim quoted in dirshu explains that the tzibur is Derech bakasha but the koreh and oleh have to be Derech sipur

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #624 on: July 05, 2015, 05:33:17 PM »
Update : mishna Berura 566:3.  Sefer hachasidim quoted in dirshu explains that the tzibur is Derech bakasha but the koreh and oleh have to be Derech sipur
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #625 on: July 05, 2015, 07:46:47 PM »
If my father's chair is moved away from his place at the table & there's a different chair in its place, am I aloud to sit in the chair by his place, his chair that's moved to the side, or none ?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #626 on: July 05, 2015, 08:01:11 PM »
If my father's chair is moved away from his place at the table & there's a different chair in its place, am I aloud to sit in the chair by his place, his chair that's moved to the side, or none ?
Both not he has his designed chair, and designed place.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #627 on: July 05, 2015, 08:04:38 PM »
Both not he has his designated chair, and designated place.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #628 on: July 06, 2015, 12:20:55 PM »
Is this rashi referring to the root or the top/head?
I thought "hair" is at the bottom, root...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #629 on: July 06, 2015, 12:24:29 PM »
There is only hair on one side. Interesting that rashi refers to that as rosh.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #630 on: July 06, 2015, 05:45:02 PM »
intersting political history here - http://www.torahlab.org/doitright/using_grape_juice_for_kiddush/
I actually spoke to someone that worked in one of the kedem factories and he said that he tried ti drink some of the grape juice after it was supposedly filtered. he said that one would never be able to drink a full cup of that as its so heavy so i imagine there is added liquid. unless the do some added filtering that would somehow make it lighter.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #631 on: July 06, 2015, 05:58:02 PM »
I actually spoke to someone that worked in one of the kedem factories and he said that he tried ti drink some of the grape juice after it was supposedly filtered. he said that one would never be able to drink a full cup of that as its so heavy so i imagine there is added liquid. unless the do some added filtering that would somehow make it lighter.
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #632 on: July 06, 2015, 06:42:17 PM »
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #633 on: July 06, 2015, 06:54:28 PM »
Legally they are allowed to add a certain amount of water (I once heard exact amount, but don't remember) and still market it as 100% pure grape juice. Maybe this sheds some light on the topic.
Obviously, they have their rabbonim who are on top of how much water they add, so that halachically we can still make a "hagafen".

Exactly. Which takes us back to my original point which was when you add water, remember that water was already added before you even opened the bottle.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #634 on: July 06, 2015, 07:15:04 PM »
So why add water and concentrate?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #635 on: July 06, 2015, 07:31:31 PM »
So why add water and concentrate?
flavor. I don't understand it 100%, but Kedem clearly does this in the grape beverage product ("light" grape juice  list water and gj concentrate in the ingredients) I asked one of the Herzogs who works @ the Marlboro plant and he said they add for flavor (the concentrate added is from California). He also told me that there is no water added to regular grape juice as did R' Nochum Rabinowitz.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #636 on: July 06, 2015, 08:22:51 PM »
flavor. I don't understand it 100%, but Kedem clearly does this in the grape beverage product ("light" grape juice  list water and gj concentrate in the ingredients) I asked one of the Herzogs who works @ the Marlboro plant and he said they add for flavor (the concentrate added is from California). He also told me that there is no water added to regular grape juice as did R' Nochum Rabinowitz.
True. So I guess adding water to the "lite" grape juice is risking your hafafen much more then when adding water to the regular grape juice.

As a side note, I once was sitting at the Shabbos seuda with my brother in law and came across a grape juice (or maybe it was a wine) that on one side of the bottle it said mevushal and on the other side it said non-mevushal. It took us a while, but my brother-in-law came up with the answer. Supposedly, there is a degree which when boiled to that point, according to some poskim the wine is considered mevushal, whereas, according to others it is not. Apparently, this bottle was boiled to that degree and no more. I later confirmed this speculation from another source.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #637 on: July 06, 2015, 08:39:29 PM »
If you get an aliya on a Tanis, do you say the loud parts with the tzibur or with the BK or both?
Similar question: if you're davening shmoneh esrei with the ש"ץ do you say קדושה with the ש"ץ or ציבור?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #638 on: July 06, 2015, 08:42:48 PM »
Similar question: if you're davening shmoneh esrei with the ש"ץ do you say קדושה with the ש"ץ or ציבור?
I don't have it in front of me but pretty sure the Kitzur says you say it with the Sha"tz

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #639 on: July 06, 2015, 08:54:03 PM »
I don't have it in front of me but pretty sure the Kitzur says you say it with the Sha"tz
That's what I remember being taught.

My turn - When should the Ba'al Koreh say Chazak Chazak and when should the Oleh say it?