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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 950554 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #900 on: October 12, 2015, 12:14:30 PM »
Why does Bris being Doche Shabbos have anything to do with Tumas Leida (asking to understand, not attacking)
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #901 on: October 12, 2015, 12:14:51 PM »
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #902 on: October 12, 2015, 12:16:07 PM »
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos
Good to know, thanks!!
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....
Ouch!
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #904 on: October 12, 2015, 12:18:33 PM »
How many of you knew baby boy born via c-section on shabbos does not have a bris on shabbos.
Yup. My brother just had a baby a few weeks ago...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #905 on: October 12, 2015, 12:20:00 PM »
Not considered a proper leida, and therefore not doche shabbos. (I think)

שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

pulled this out of a wiktext teshuva at https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%91%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%95_%D7%99%D7%91_%D7%99%D7%98

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #906 on: October 12, 2015, 12:22:01 PM »
IIRC, the pasuk of bayom hashmini is written in the parsha of tumas leida, and thats the pasuk which teaches us the bris is doche shabbos if its day 8 (that part is definitely true, the "IIRC" is on this next part), so the gemora connects the 2 and there has to be tumas leida to be doche shabbos
FTFY
שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #907 on: October 12, 2015, 12:23:35 PM »
שולחן ערוך (יו"ד סי' רסו ס"י): "קטן שנולד כשהוא מהול, ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות, ואנדרוגינוס, ויוצא דופן, ויליד בית שלא טבלה אמו עד שילדה, אף על פי שנימולים לשמונה אינם דוחים את השבת".
ושו"ע (או"ח סי' שלא ס"ה): "אנדרוגינוס ונולד בין השמשות ונולד כשהוא מהול ויוצא דופן וכותית שילדה ואח"כ נתגיירה ומי שיש לו שתי ערלות אין מילתן דוחה שבת
ובאר המשנה ברורה (ס"ק יח) שהמנויים בהלכה זו אין דוחים שבת משום ספק במילתם – "חוץ מיוצא דופן וא"י שילדה התם הטעם משום דאין טמאים בטומאת לידה ולכמה תנאי בעינן כסדר האמור בפרשת תזריע דאשה כשהיא טמאה לידה בנה נמול לשמונה".

pulled this out of a wiktext teshuva at https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%91%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%95_%D7%99%D7%91_%D7%99%D7%98
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #908 on: October 12, 2015, 12:32:59 PM »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #909 on: October 12, 2015, 12:34:30 PM »
Yups, quite embarrassing.
He can tell everyone that the baby was too yellow in the last minute...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #910 on: October 12, 2015, 12:36:07 PM »
He can tell everyone that the baby was too yellow in the last minute...
Next time  :D

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #911 on: October 12, 2015, 12:47:53 PM »
Next time  :D
Is that post a pic of the yellow baby...?  ;)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #912 on: October 13, 2015, 02:17:16 AM »
Someone once invited his whole family to his town for shabess for his sons bris, shabess morning he found out that he cannot make the bris on shabbos as it was a c-section.....
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #913 on: October 13, 2015, 06:22:11 AM »
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.

It's usually the smaller mohalim that get the out of town Shabbos Brissim...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #914 on: October 13, 2015, 11:24:53 AM »
Without knowing the whole story, that's ridiculous. The mohel definitely knew the halacha (I hope) and unless it was his first bris it should have been his forst question re a shabbos bris.

A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #915 on: October 13, 2015, 11:25:50 AM »
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Didn't know that.  Makes the Kasha stronger

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #916 on: October 13, 2015, 11:28:40 AM »
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
Why's that ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #917 on: October 13, 2015, 11:34:19 AM »
Not exactly sure. has to do with chillul shabbas and sakanah. I think its beferish in shu"a.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #918 on: October 13, 2015, 11:46:00 AM »
Are seven eleven donuts kosher?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #919 on: October 13, 2015, 12:55:12 PM »
A mohel cannot do his first bris on a shabbos.
that doesn't make sense so if a father wants to cut his ben bochur whats he supposed to do if its a shabbos bris? wait til sunday?