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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 950349 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #980 on: November 19, 2015, 09:45:24 AM »


Maybe this will help start the hock
The hock will really start when the conventional butchers feel threatened by the lower prices, they will be throwing everything but the kitchen sink to shut this thing down

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #981 on: November 19, 2015, 09:52:15 AM »
Al pi halacha there's no issue. On the hashkafa side there's a problem that if this becomes the norm people will forget hilchos treafia etc.
Maybe this will help start the hock
Rav Chaim Shlit"a doesn't seem to have any problem with this. I wonder if there are letters from any other gedolim...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #982 on: November 19, 2015, 09:59:45 AM »


depends where you hang out :)-1 I belive the Halacha is that if one were to mix with a non Ben pekuah then it would be assur to shecht that animal.

Not saying your wrong, I understand why they would all loose their Ben pekua status but why would it be assured to shecht?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #983 on: November 19, 2015, 10:01:50 AM »
Rav Chaim Shlit"a doesn't seem to have any problem with this. I wonder if there are letters from any other gedolim...
Any source from R Chaim aside from the website says that says "he exchanged letter with R Chaim "?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #984 on: November 19, 2015, 10:11:20 AM »

Source?
In YD siman 13 it states that if a Ben  Pekuah has a child with a regular animal, that child cannot be eaten even with shechitah, maybe that's what he is referring to

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #985 on: November 19, 2015, 10:13:40 AM »
I expected a bigger reaction. Especially out of you
I tried to look into this a while back. Doesn't pass the smell test but I can't get to the bottom of it. Waiting for someone to do a full investigation.

Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #986 on: November 19, 2015, 10:15:11 AM »
Any source from R Chaim aside from the website says that says "he exchanged letter with R Chaim "?
Got to dig a little deeper... :)
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!r-chaim-k/su7gr

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #987 on: November 19, 2015, 10:18:13 AM »


Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.
Not sure of agenda? Money, money and money...if takes off can totally dominate kosher meat market

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #988 on: November 19, 2015, 10:42:41 AM »
Is the milk of a BP milichigs?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #989 on: November 19, 2015, 10:43:15 AM »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #990 on: November 19, 2015, 11:24:30 AM »
why isnt there the same problems with the hind quarters?

are you allowed to eat the Gid on BP animals?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #991 on: November 19, 2015, 11:30:09 AM »
can you use something like this to grill on a non kosher grill [ and keep the food kosher ]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RTP9AJ6/ref=gbps_tit_m-4_5142_d0103326?smid=A2JHKVCKV2DXPB&pf_rd_p=2283935142&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=13RS3BQ0TN749GG7SB4G

my guess is not, but I have to ask

Also can you grill corn in the husk on a non kosher grill ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #992 on: November 19, 2015, 12:23:11 PM »
I tried to look into this a while back. Doesn't pass the smell test but I can't get to the bottom of it. Waiting for someone to do a full investigation.

Not sure what the real agenda is, not sure why they are making dinners and events, not sure who these people are etc. Etc.
There's a whole section on their site for Animal Welfare, so... there's that.

Is the milk of a BP milichigs?
No.
why isnt there the same problems with the hind quarters?

are you allowed to eat the Gid on BP animals?
Yes.

See the letters to R' Chaim, both questions are mentioned (the 4th and 3rd pictures respectively).

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #993 on: November 19, 2015, 01:22:34 PM »


There's a whole section on their site for Animal Welfare, so... there's that.

Right, not sure if that's some kind of twisted marketing, fund raising or something else.


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #994 on: November 19, 2015, 01:27:49 PM »
And now more weirdness.

Are they serious? An auditor? Internal controls? I hope they are COSO 2013 compliant  


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #995 on: November 19, 2015, 01:31:31 PM »
And now more weirdness.

Are they serious? An auditor? Internal controls? I hope they are COSO 2013 compliant  


They posted the whole report:
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!blank/ytmws

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #996 on: November 19, 2015, 01:35:31 PM »
They posted the whole report:
http://www.benpekuahmeats.com/#!blank/ytmws
Loving this. Especially page 7 about the rabbi sampling

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #997 on: November 19, 2015, 01:37:29 PM »
This is definitely not marketed for the traditional kosher consumer. Not sure who would be interested though.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #998 on: November 19, 2015, 01:44:02 PM »
I like vanilla but my name is Venilla.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #999 on: November 19, 2015, 01:46:44 PM »

BP?
Ben Pekuah if you are following thread