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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 950398 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1020 on: November 27, 2015, 01:25:07 PM »
Why not. The question is about the signing
Well if its an I owe you how can it be proven true maybe you made it up...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1021 on: November 27, 2015, 01:28:30 PM »
What is your question exactly? Is a scanned document permissible evidence or if a digital signature or an email is admissible?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1022 on: November 27, 2015, 01:29:33 PM »
What is your question exactly? Is a scanned document permissible evidence or if a digital signature or an email is admissible?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1023 on: November 27, 2015, 01:47:18 PM »
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I have no idea if we go by minhag hamedina in this, but digital signatures are basically legally binding.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1024 on: November 29, 2015, 07:50:21 AM »
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1025 on: November 29, 2015, 07:58:55 AM »
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?
Evidently you can make a kinyan in this chamor online...

http://www.pidyonchamor.org/

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1026 on: November 29, 2015, 01:11:47 PM »
Evidently you can make a kinyan in this chamor online...

http://www.pidyonchamor.org/
According to the flyers I saw the kinyan is made by a shliyach
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1027 on: November 29, 2015, 01:31:07 PM »
According to the flyers I saw the kinyan is made by a shliyach
Yup. Agree

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1028 on: November 29, 2015, 03:35:18 PM »
If you do mechiras chametz online, does it work?
You're not doing a kinyan,  just appointing a shaliach.  So yes.  Pruzbul is a more difficult scenario,  there are sevaros lehatir there as well.  There were articles written RH time,  I can find of there's interest

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1029 on: November 29, 2015, 03:39:07 PM »
You're not doing a kinyan,  just appointing a shaliach.  So yes.
-1 You most definitely do a kinyan sudar as a part of mechiras chometz. If you have a shliach do that for you then it would be fine similar to CBC's case
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1030 on: November 29, 2015, 04:46:33 PM »
-1 You most definitely do a kinyan sudar as a part of mechiras chometz. If you have a shliach do that for you then it would be fine similar to CBC's case
Take a look at the forms for mechiras chametz online. 

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1031 on: November 29, 2015, 04:56:18 PM »
Take a look at the forms for mechiras chametz online.
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1032 on: November 29, 2015, 04:59:52 PM »
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.
Of course,  unless there's a reason why.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1033 on: November 29, 2015, 04:59:58 PM »
If in fact there is a question about whether mechiras chametz can be done online, pointing out the fact that the sites that offer it don't require kinyan sudar is not a proof of anything.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1034 on: November 30, 2015, 11:58:42 PM »
When we authorize a rabbi to sell our chametz we do not technically require a kinyan sudar. That is because the rabbi is not purchasing our chametz. He is merely acting as our agent to sell it to a non-Jew. We are nevertheless accustomed to perform such an act through raising a garment, or another object belonging to the rabbi, in order to confirm that our request that he act on our behalf is made in earnest.
Now, puttting the Kinyan aside, is online shtar valid?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1035 on: December 01, 2015, 12:14:25 AM »
When we authorize a rabbi to sell our chametz we do not technically require a kinyan sudar. That is because the rabbi is not purchasing our chametz. He is merely acting as our agent to sell it to a non-Jew. We are nevertheless accustomed to perform such an act through raising a garment, or another object belonging to the rabbi, in order to confirm that our request that he act on our behalf is made in earnest.
Now, puttting the Kinyan aside, is online shtar valid?
iirc the shtar for mechiras chometz is also not really needed and is more to specify all the conditions and the acceptance of them can technically be done without the actual shtar. That said, someone doing such a mechiras chometz without a shtar or kinyan is certainly not following the accepted minhag.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1036 on: December 06, 2015, 10:50:57 AM »
Am I allowed to light the menorah in a different city if I'm just going there tonight for a mesiba & coming right back ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1037 on: December 06, 2015, 10:52:40 AM »
Am I allowed to light the menorah in a different city if I'm just going there tonight for a mesiba & coming right back ?
Why not light at home when you get back? Are you going alone?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1038 on: December 06, 2015, 10:55:23 AM »
Why not light at home when you get back? Are you going alone?
I'm going with the family. Am I allowed to eat & farbreng all that time without lighting ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1039 on: December 06, 2015, 11:19:46 AM »
I'm going with the family. Am I allowed to eat & farbreng all that time without lighting ?
Not mezonos
And don't light there