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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 964471 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1100 on: December 08, 2015, 10:57:34 AM »
  • RA"E in the addition at the end of the tshuva seems to write that he is referring to someone who leaves for a few days and not just someone who steps outside for a few minutes.
I work way out of lakewood. so arguably this could apply.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1101 on: December 08, 2015, 11:02:16 AM »
I'm maskim to your lomdus, and that birchas haroeh is different.
However, the reason not to eat is not (only)  because you have a chiyuv that was chal. For example, even if for whatever reason you can't shake lulav now, or daven mincha, a seudah is lechoaira still assur. (Before you jump on me, I know that איו הנידון דומה לראיה because there the chiyuv is chal, just no heicha timza, and here there's no chiyuv, but in both cases I can't do it now and will be able to do it later).
 I'm not sure why, but maybe because there's still a chashash it'll totally slip your mind if you get busy with something else.
lehalacha, they bring this in the dirshu from Reb Vosner (p.110 in the miluim, #31) However in the same shtikel they bring from RNK that a woman can't eat even if she is someich on her husband "since she is in the makom hadlaka" That would seem to be a rayoh to your yesod. I don't have the quoted seforim on hand to look up though.

To add the issur achila begins half hour before the chiyuv... So maybe you have a point..

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1102 on: December 08, 2015, 11:04:27 AM »



גם יש לדון אם יש להמשרד או הרכב - שלפעמים גם אוכל בהם סעודות וכו' - דין דירה. . וממקום שבאת, הרי המשרד חייב במזוזה  וגם הרכב הי' חייב לכמה פוסקים אם 'הי' בה שיעור דע"ד ושאר התנאים


Indeed iirc there is a R Shlomo Zalman about lighting a flash light on a plane for ner chanuka...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1103 on: December 08, 2015, 11:12:14 AM »
Tos: "they were mesaken bircas haroeh for people who dont have a house and are not able to be mekayem the mitzva. .... Vtikshey lei mezuza."

Clearly this teritz of tos is suggesting that chanuka is a chiyuv like mezuza.
What say you?



Indeed, achsanai may be only a chiyuv mishum chshad, etc. (delo K'hRan.)
I meant ishto madlekes olov and being mitztaref with a pruta.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1104 on: December 08, 2015, 11:26:36 AM »
Tos: "they were mesaken bircas haroeh for people who dont have a house and are not able to be mekayem the mitzva. .... Vtikshey lei mezuza."

Clearly this teritz of tos is suggesting that chanuka is a chiyuv like mezuza.
What say you?



Indeed, achsanai may be only a chiyuv mishum chshad, etc. (delo K'hRan.)
its similar to mezuza in that you only have a chiyuv if you have a bayis
its different than mezuza in that, to use terminology born from nedarim, the chiyuv hadlaka is a chiyuv on the gavra and the chiyuv mezuza is on the cheftza of the bayis

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1105 on: December 08, 2015, 02:16:16 PM »
I am new to this side of DDF. How do you guys write inyonim of learning in english???
It would take me 5 times as long to write...
I have been teaching inyonim of halacha to people without enough background to understand concepts not presented in standard english for quite a few years. It is not difficult to do the same in writing.

I also teach people who do not have a yeshiva background. indeed it takes 5 times as long....

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1106 on: December 08, 2015, 02:31:12 PM »
Takes me too long to type Hebrew.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1107 on: December 08, 2015, 05:06:44 PM »
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1108 on: December 08, 2015, 05:09:57 PM »
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?

Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1109 on: December 08, 2015, 05:10:23 PM »
Forgive me if this was covered already, if someone must work late is he allowed to eat anything he wants or not ?
I assume this means that there are some posts that you don't know about?! I'm speechless! :D
On a serious note, I've been meaning for a long time to PM you to tell you how much I benefit from all your cross-referencing and mare mekomos, and how much I appreciate your input. But here's to a public thank you!

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1110 on: December 08, 2015, 05:12:04 PM »
I assume this means that there are some posts that you don't know about?! I'm speechless! :D
On a serious note, I've been meaning for a long time to PM you to tell you how much I benefit from all your cross-referencing and mare mekomos, and how much I appreciate your input. But here's to a public thank you!
YW. There was a lot of back & forth lomdos & hebrew that was just confusing me.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1111 on: December 08, 2015, 05:12:50 PM »
Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1112 on: December 08, 2015, 05:14:19 PM »
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.
Should be able to appoint a shomer if necessary.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1113 on: December 08, 2015, 05:15:05 PM »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1114 on: December 08, 2015, 05:24:01 PM »
So you gotta go hungry till whatever hour you get home to light.
And as long as you are not koveia a seuda you are fine. Ie kabeitza+ mezonos or washing.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1116 on: December 08, 2015, 06:03:47 PM »
Had the same question, my Rav told me not to eat after the 72
That is interesting bacause many poskim say not to eat for half an hour beforehand. Also, that would depend on your minhag of when to light.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1117 on: December 08, 2015, 06:09:15 PM »
That is interesting bacause many poskim say not to eat for half an hour beforehand. Also, that would depend on your minhag of when to light.
Half hour before whenever you plan to light ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1118 on: December 08, 2015, 06:13:54 PM »
Half hour before whenever you plan to light ?
before zman hadlaka
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1119 on: December 11, 2015, 09:09:22 AM »
Said yaleh vayovo in shachris by mistake?