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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 962681 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3320 on: September 12, 2018, 02:51:02 PM »
^^^

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3321 on: September 12, 2018, 02:53:54 PM »
Gedalia died on Rosh Hashanah?

Who was Gedalia?

(Sorry am haaretz coming through...)
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3322 on: September 12, 2018, 02:56:31 PM »
Its so quick, that he can grab three people and just say it to them. Basically, "Any neder that I made that can become annulled, i regret that it became a neder".  Check your LOR.
Can you still do it after RH?
In order to understand recursion, you first need to understand recursion.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3323 on: September 12, 2018, 02:56:49 PM »
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3324 on: September 12, 2018, 02:58:02 PM »
In order to understand recursion, you first need to understand recursion.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3325 on: September 12, 2018, 02:58:41 PM »
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3326 on: September 12, 2018, 03:08:18 PM »
Its so quick, that he can grab three people and just say it to them. Basically, "Any neder that I made that can become annulled, i regret that it became a neder".  Check your LOR.
Don't leave out the moda'a

"I am informing you that if I make a neder it should not take effect"
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3327 on: September 12, 2018, 03:17:56 PM »
^^^

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3329 on: September 12, 2018, 07:42:10 PM »
Does someone with a bad stutter or high anxiety have to say התרת נדרים ?
for התרת נדרים everyone stutters
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3330 on: September 12, 2018, 08:05:18 PM »
Is Tzom Gedalya considered a ninche in halacha?

ETA: Nidche (postponed)
no

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3331 on: September 12, 2018, 08:11:39 PM »
Till when?
You can do hatoras nedorim until Yom Kippur.

(Based off the shaloh in the beginning of Yuma and the kitzur shaloh inyonei hanhogas hatoras nedorim, and mateh efrayim תקפא סעי' יט.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3332 on: September 13, 2018, 12:47:43 AM »
Total guess but the other 3 things are more in your control. You might make a beracha on a singer and then they will stop singing.
What if it’s your own voice?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3333 on: September 13, 2018, 12:04:42 PM »
Why is there no Birchas HaNehenin for hearing a great Chazan or concert? We have such Brochos for enjoyable sights, tastes and smells, several Brochos for different besamin, but nothing to thank HaShem for our hearing pleasurable music?
bracha on sights is called ברכת הראיה and is for specific views. taste and smell are called ברכת הנהנין and is said when pleasure "enters" the body and we benefit from it (regarding smell, we learn from a posuk that the neshama benefits from it (remember why we smell besomim?)
a good voice does not enter the body and there is no real benefit

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3334 on: September 13, 2018, 01:52:43 PM »
bracha on sights is called ברכת הראיה and is for specific views. taste and smell are called ברכת הנהנין and is said when pleasure "enters" the body and we benefit from it (regarding smell, we learn from a posuk that the neshama benefits from it (remember why we smell besomim?)
a good voice does not enter the body and there is no real benefit
So there are Brochos for “specific views” where we thank HaShem for the beautiful or extraordinary sights, such as the Yam Hagodol. Enjoying those sights does not enter the body any more so than listening to a concert. Thanks for addressing the issue, but I’m still not convinced. This question occurred to me on Rosh Hashanah when I observed a blind young man so obviously enjoying the Chazan and everyone’s back up harmony.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3335 on: September 13, 2018, 02:07:55 PM »
So there are Brochos for “specific views” where we thank HaShem for the beautiful or extraordinary sights, such as the Yam Hagodol. Enjoying those sights does not enter the body any more so than listening to a concert. Thanks for addressing the issue, but I’m still not convinced. This question occurred to me on Rosh Hashanah when I observed a blind young man so obviously enjoying the Chazan and everyone’s back up harmony.

A Bracha on a sight is a Bracha of Shevach, not a Birkas HaNehenin. So already the comparison doesn't get off the ground. It's not at all similar to a taste or a smell.

If you want to ask why there's no Shevach on a sound, I'd argue that someone's voice is man-made as a person goes to classes etc to improve their voice, whereas a natural scene isn't man-made. By the same token, I don't think there would be a Birkas Shevach on man-made art.

And there's a Birkas Shevach on thunder which is a natural noise.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3336 on: September 13, 2018, 07:49:37 PM »
A Bracha on a sight is a Bracha of Shevach, not a Birkas HaNehenin. So already the comparison doesn't get off the ground. It's not at all similar to a taste or a smell.

If you want to ask why there's no Shevach on a sound, I'd argue that someone's voice is man-made as a person goes to classes etc to improve their voice, whereas a natural scene isn't man-made. By the same token, I don't think there would be a Birkas Shevach on man-made art.

And there's a Birkas Shevach on thunder which is a natural noise.
Not sure of the answer, but as far as I can think, birchas hashevach are on natural phenomena, not man made. Voices singing are man made.
Birchas hanehnin require some level of mamoshes. Kol, maareh vreiach don't have meilah because they are not mamoshes enough.
You only make a brocho on certain types of reiach, also. Like you don't make a brocho on a good smelling steak.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3337 on: September 13, 2018, 08:50:41 PM »
bracha on sights is called ברכת הראיה and is for specific views.
A Bracha on a sight is a Bracha of Shevach, not a Birkas HaNehenin.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3338 on: September 13, 2018, 08:55:37 PM »
Like you don't make a brocho on a good smelling steak.
רמ"א סימן רטז סעיף יד
יש אומרים דהמריח בפת חם יש לו לברך שנתן ריח טוב בפת (אבודרהם ובית יוסף סימן רצ"ו בשם אורחות חיים) ויש אומרים דאין לברך עליו (בית יוסף) לכך אין להריח בו
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #3339 on: September 13, 2018, 08:58:42 PM »
M"B 216:4
עוד נתבאר בפוסקים דדוקא אריח תקנו חכמים ברכה ולא אקול [ר"ל בשומע קול נעים] שאין בו ממש וכן לא תקנו ברכה ארחיצה וכדומה משום דאין נכנסין לגוף: