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AYLR – Ask Your Local Rabbi
KHLH – כל המקיל לא הפסיד
IMHnrO - In My Humble non-rabbinic Opinion
MB – Mishna Berura
MM - Mar'eh Makom
MMR – Machlokes Mechaber & Rema
NM - Nafka Minah
S – Siman
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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 427158 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4065 on: January 08, 2020, 02:23:17 PM »
There are a few points here which you misunderstood.

First and foremost among them is that he was explaining reasoning to be lenient regarding coffee by being mitztaref together different opinions. This applies to bishul only and not pas.

One of those opinions is one that holds that a snack is by definition not OASM. According to this opinion, all snacks are not called OASM. This is not by any means agreed to by all. The Mechaber very specifically states that it does not need to be ללפת את הפת but rather even if it is לפרפרת it can be called OASM.

He never even said that all snacks are mutar as an actual psak.


ETA: Later on he does say that snacks are not OASM and understands that even פרפרת is only discussing in a meal. I find this to be a big chiddush and many recent poskim have clearly held otherwise. I will need to look further into this.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4066 on: January 09, 2020, 12:13:36 AM »
ETA: Later on he does say that snacks are not OASM and understands that even פרפרת is only discussing in a meal. I find this to be a big chiddush and many recent poskim have clearly held otherwise. I will need to look further into this.
Rav Asher Weiss is the semi-official posek of the OU and has a trailblazing mehalech in Psak. Razor sharp logic.
Many recognize him as the posek hador.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4067 on: January 09, 2020, 04:51:53 AM »
It is made in a popper.
steamed and dried. Some have argued that it's essentially an oven with steam. Others have said it's bishul.
It's common for newer ovens to have steam setting. (Rational, Altosham, etc)
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4068 on: January 09, 2020, 08:06:49 AM »
steamed and dried. Some have argued that it's essentially an oven with steam. Others have said it's bishul.
It's common for newer ovens to have steam setting. (Rational, Altosham, etc)
Am I getting confused with Kix?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4069 on: January 09, 2020, 08:33:12 AM »
Am I getting confused with Kix?
corn pops.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4070 on: January 09, 2020, 10:33:52 AM »
Rav Asher Weiss is the semi-official posek of the OU and has a trailblazing mehalech in Psak. Razor sharp logic.
Many recognize him as the posek hador.
This made the whole conversation about sushi seem very strange.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4071 on: January 11, 2020, 09:07:51 PM »
Anyone familiar with whats allowed in this case?

 Baked some sweet potatoes in my fleishig Oven, the oven was not used in the past 24 hours prior to baking the sweet potatoes, can I use those potatoes in a milchig salad?
   Yes I know the potatoes are parve. But do they retain a flieshig status? Or fleishig keilim idea and should not be placed in a milchig salad?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4072 on: January 11, 2020, 09:10:00 PM »
Anyone familiar with whats allowed in this case?

 Baked some sweet potatoes in my fleishig Oven, the oven was not used in the past 24 hours prior to baking the sweet potatoes, can I use those potatoes in a milchig salad?
   Yes I know the potatoes are parve. But do they retain a flieshig status? Or fleishig keilim idea and should not be placed in a milchig salad?
Was the oven clean?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4073 on: January 11, 2020, 09:13:39 PM »
Was the oven clean?
Yes.
 
  Ovens are always spot free in my home bh.
 So no oil and chicken stains in the oven.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4074 on: January 11, 2020, 09:15:43 PM »
Seems like at worst a classic case of nat bar nat and therefore would be allowed bidieved.

Also many say that a clean oven returns to pareve status when it cools down anyway. Others say if the oven isn't Ben yomo and clean then it's pareve. So you've got a lot going for you.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4075 on: January 11, 2020, 09:33:40 PM »
Seems like at worst a classic case of nat bar nat and therefore would be allowed bidieved.

Also many say that a clean oven returns to pareve status when it cools down anyway. Others say if the oven isn't Ben yomo and clean then it's pareve. So you've got a lot going for you.
Thanks, heard that even should there be a little spill in oven there's not enough liquid to cause the zeyah to spread and cause the potatoes to become flieshig.
   It's a like a parve oven as it wasn't used in over 24 hrs.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4076 on: January 12, 2020, 12:50:50 AM »
This made the whole conversation about sushi seem very strange.
In his defense, sushi is very not popular in Israel.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4077 on: January 13, 2020, 01:01:25 PM »
What's the makor for large kitchens only checking 3 pieces of lettuce and relying on a chazaka that the rest of the pieces have no bugs?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4078 on: January 13, 2020, 01:19:49 PM »
What's the makor for large kitchens only checking 3 pieces of lettuce and relying on a chazaka that the rest of the pieces have no bugs?
where do they do this and Uber who's auspices?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4079 on: January 13, 2020, 01:26:55 PM »


where do they do this and Uber who's auspices?
In Yeshiva. We knew they didn't check all the lettuce, it would be impossible with the amount needed and staff available. This was discussed as the reason it was able to be done.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm wondering what the makor is (if there is one).