All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions

[Moshe Green]

There are definitely cases where some authorities allow manipulation of a mechanical timer however it is a sensitive matter and every scenario can be different.

In my case I'm fine using a 7-Day timer so I don't have to manipulate it however a question I have is regarding the red and green lights going on and off on the cover of the pizza maker if that is happening as a direct result of opening / closing the pizza maker

well if you only open the pizza maker when the lights are on, wouldnt it be fine because your not causing it to do anything?

[Alexsei]

well if you only open the pizza maker when the lights are on, wouldnt it be fine because your not causing it to do anything?

Since there are both red and green lights regardless of the situation one of them can go on or off

[Ver hut gazugt]

#1 it may not be muktza if its muttar to flip the tabs and even if it was,
#2 its letzaruch gufo and since its only a kli shemilachto le'issur its muttar to move

presumably it’s plug in before yom tov and electricity is flowing to give energy to the timer. So it a kli shemilachto le’isur plus mishtamish le’isur bain hashemashis. Which is asur to touch or move.

[Moshe Green]

Since there are both red and green lights regardless of the situation one of them can go on or off

im not a rav but i would assume that you should experiment a bit and see what causes the green/red to go on. if you see that opening it has no affect or at least not have any immeadeat effect, i dont see why it would be assur...

[Moshe Green]

presumably it’s plug in before yom tov and electricity is flowing to give energy to the timer. So it a kli shemilachto le’isur plus mishtamish le’isur bain hashemashis. Which is asur to touch or move.

muktza is never assur to touch, its moving thats an issur. but i hear you. we have to rely on #2 which is that it is needed for gufo.

[JlmBoi]

muktza is never assur to touch, its moving thats an issur.

A egg is assur to touch bc u can't touch it without moving.

[SSLPhD]

Can anyone give some info on how the Hebrew letters we use transformed from the original into the current, and any ramifications.  Is there any good comprehensive source (in English) on the topic?

[Ver hut gazugt]

Can anyone give some info on how the Hebrew letters we use transformed from the original into the current, and any ramifications.  Is there any good comprehensive source (in English) on the topic?

not sure what you mean by transform. AFAIK their are two separate ksav’s we only use one which is ksav ashuris. Wish I knew of a good English resource.

[Moshe Green]

A egg is assur to touch bc u can't touch it without moving.

exactly

[JlmBoi]

Can anyone give some info on how the Hebrew letters we use transformed from the original into the current, and any ramifications.  Is there any good comprehensive source (in English) on the topic?

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3582435/jewish/What-Is-the-Authentic-Ancient-Hebrew-Alphabet.htm
Not exactly your question but interesting

[koplonko]

#2 its letzaruch gufo and since its only a kli shemilachto le'issur its muttar to move

And you could move it letzorech the isur???

[Moshe Green]

And you could move it letzorech the isur???

no, but thats ok because its muttar to cause it to go on with a grama.

[koplonko]

no, but thats ok because its muttar to cause it to go on with a grama.

So basically nothing in the world is muktza because it can be moved with a shinui

[Moshe Green]

So basically nothing in the world is muktza because it can be moved with a shinui

  What?!?!

ok. lets go with the basics:
Grama: Lit. "Causing". Doing an action that does not have immediate consequences but causes them to happen later. Ex. Pouring water on the floor which then goes by itself towards a fire and puts it out.
Shinui: Lit. "Change". Doing an action in a manner other than is normally done. Ex. Turning on a light with an elbow.

The timer that is plugged in and set to go on and off based on the little tabs can have the tabs be pushed up and down on Yom Tov to turn on and off the appliance at a later time because a Grama to turn on an appliance on Yom Tov is Muttar. To turn on the appliance with ones elbow is Assur, just like any other of the Melachos is Assur to do with a Shinui. Muktza on the other hand, may be moved with a Shinui (elbow, foot, etc.) because (according to the mainstream Shitta) the Issur was just made on moving things in the normal way.

[thaber]

The timer that is plugged in and set to go on and off based on the little tabs can have the tabs be pushed up and down on Yom Tov to turn on and off the appliance at a later time because a Grama to turn on an appliance on Yom Tov is Muttar.

What rav shlomo zalman said (in reference to a thermostat on shabbos IIRC) is that you can change the pins to make the melacha happen later, not sooner. If it was scheduled to happen at 10 you can change it to 11.
This was not universally accepted.

Do you have a source that "a grama to turn on an appliance on Yom tov is mutar" ?

[Moshe Green]

What rav shlomo zalman said (in reference to a thermostat on shabbos IIRC) is that you can change the pins to make the melacha happen later, not sooner. If it was scheduled to happen at 10 you can change it to 11.
This was not universally accepted.

Do you have a source that "a grama to turn on an appliance on Yom tov is mutar" ?

This is what i found:
https://www.hamichlol.org.il/%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA_(%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%9B%D7%94)#%D7%A9%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D_%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91
שעון שבת ביום טוב
מבחינה הלכתית, אפשרות עריכת שינויים בשעון השבת ביום טוב קלה מבשבת משתי בחינות:

איסור הבערה בשבת הוא מן התורה, ואיסור הבערת אש חדשה ביום טוב הוא מדברי חכמים, ועל כן כאשר ישנם ספקות ומחלוקות בדבר השימוש בשעון השבת ביום טוב, יש יותר מקום להקל.
בעוד שלדעת פוסקים רבים גרמא בשבת אסורה מדברי חכמים למעט לצורך גדול, ביום טוב לדעת רוב הפוסקים עשיית מלאכה בגרמא מותרת גם לצורך שאינו גדול[27], ובפרט בגרם כיבוי והדלקה, שאיסורו (ללא גרמא) מדברי חכמים בלבד ביום טוב[28].
על פי הנ"ל, רבים נוהגים בפועל להקל ולקצר את פעולת שעון השבת ביום טוב, ובלבד שפעולת ההדלקה או הכיבוי תהיה בגרמא ולא תוצאה מיידית של קיצור המצב הקיים[29].

 תוספות על מסכת ביצה דף כ"ב, א'. רמ"א על שולחן ערוך, אורח חיים, סימן תקיד, סעיף ג , מאמר מרדכי שם, שער הציון שם סעיף קטן ל"א, ועוד.[27]
 [28]אחיעזר ג', ס'. חלקת יואב א', ס'.
 [29]פניני הלכה מועדים פרק ה', הלכה ז'.

but as i said in the beginning, im not a posek (or close to one at all) and one should ask their knowledgeable LOR.

[koplonko]

or close to one at all.

Indeed, you're quite far...

[Moshe_N]

If you eat flaishigs and then throw up... are you still Flaishig?

[aygart]

Indeed, you're quite far...

Nuuuuu

[Moshe Green]

Indeed, you're quite far...

wrong thread. post it in the Loshon Horah Thread with the Ger fight.