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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 1178476 times)

Offline Alexsei

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5820 on: July 12, 2023, 10:40:26 PM »
Is davening מנחה שמונה עשרה with a minyan davening מעריב שמונה עשרה considered davening with Minyan? Or maybe considered just as davening עם הציבור?
https://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/86293
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5821 on: July 12, 2023, 10:47:12 PM »
Is davening מנחה שמונה עשרה with a minyan davening מעריב שמונה עשרה considered davening with Minyan? Or maybe considered just as davening עם הציבור?
מ״ב רל״ו ס״ק י״א  definitely seems to imply that it’s better than nothing.



ETA: This is mentioned in the article that @Alexsei‘s posted. I was looking for this מ״ב when he posted :)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5822 on: July 13, 2023, 12:20:57 PM »
I'm not commenting on its application here, but causing someone to lose business is definitely mazik. The shelo k'din refers to the speaker, not the one who stops patronizing the business. If the LH is mazik and the speaker did not have a right to cause that hezek, it would be shelo k'din even if the person "has every right to withdraw on a whim".
Taking this here not to clog that thread.
What’s your source (beyond the book of Rav Reuvain) that causing a loss of business because of a למיחש מבעי is considered a mazik and what negate the heter of לתועלת?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5823 on: July 13, 2023, 12:30:17 PM »
Taking this here not to clog that thread.
What’s your source (beyond the book of Rav Reuvain) that causing a loss of business because of a למיחש מבעי is considered a mazik and what negate the heter of לתועלת?
What's your source that causing someone to lose business is not mazik?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5824 on: July 13, 2023, 12:42:15 PM »
What's your source that causing someone to lose business is not mazik?
It may be a mazik but it’s not שלא כדין as it’s perfectly within the rights of למיחש מיבעי since you have no obligations at all to them על פי דין.

We’ve been through this a couple months back, I don’t remember where.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5825 on: July 13, 2023, 12:50:49 PM »
It may be a mazik but it’s not שלא כדין as it’s perfectly within the rights of למיחש מיבעי since you have no obligations at all to them על פי דין.

We’ve been through this a couple months back, I don’t remember where.
If the speaker has no right to be mazik, it's shelo k'din.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5826 on: July 13, 2023, 12:51:57 PM »
If the speaker has no right to be mazik, it's shelo k'din.
Incorrect. Only hezek beyond למיחש מיבעי.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5827 on: July 13, 2023, 12:57:29 PM »

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5828 on: July 18, 2023, 10:44:54 PM »
Does this need to be toiveled?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5829 on: July 18, 2023, 10:46:27 PM »
Does this need to be toiveled?

Not according to Rav Moshe IIRC as it merely “burns” bread.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5830 on: July 18, 2023, 11:19:54 PM »
Any issue with having guests for Shabbos Chazon?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5831 on: July 19, 2023, 07:01:48 AM »
What's your source that causing someone to lose business is not mazik?

Wouldn't it be, at worst, garmi?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5832 on: July 19, 2023, 08:49:29 AM »
Wouldn't it be, at worst, garmi?
That would be for just about any result of speech
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5833 on: July 19, 2023, 10:31:06 AM »
Wouldn't it be, at worst, garmi?
It would still be assur, even if he can't be toveah in BD
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5834 on: July 19, 2023, 10:54:08 AM »
It would still be assur, even if he can't be toveah in BD
And if the intent is to cause the loss possibly chayiv as well

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5835 on: July 19, 2023, 11:03:51 AM »
And if the intent is to cause the loss possibly chayiv as well
But that is not the case here because correct intent is needed either way
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5836 on: July 19, 2023, 11:04:02 AM »
And if the intent is to cause the loss possibly chayiv as well
But that is not the case here because correct intent is needed either way
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5837 on: July 19, 2023, 11:53:41 AM »
But that is not the case here because correct intent is needed either way
What do you mean ?
If warning people as a way of minimizing his business dealings to save them that’s not enough?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5838 on: July 21, 2023, 10:39:00 AM »
Two completely unrelated questions:

1. Is there any kashrus issue with ordering salmon sashimi (only fish, no rice or seasoning) from a non-kosher restaurant, assuming that: (i)  I was the fish before eating, and (ii) it's delivered to my office so there is no ma'aras ayin issue?

2. Is there any issue with purposely melting ice on Shabbos, either by rubbing it, pouring salt on it, etc?

Thanks!

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions
« Reply #5839 on: July 21, 2023, 10:45:26 AM »

2. Is there any issue with purposely melting ice on Shabbos, either by rubbing it, pouring salt on it, etc?
Yes, it’s forbidden to cause it to melt by rubbing it. I’m not sure about pouring salt.