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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1940 on: April 14, 2020, 10:41:53 AM »
Source? Hard to believe that Trump would abide that.
Going to need a source.

Looking for it. I believe it was linked from something on these boards.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1941 on: April 14, 2020, 10:43:28 AM »
Looking for it. I believe it was linked from something on these boards.
Will put it in #fakenews until further notice.  :)
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« Reply #1942 on: April 14, 2020, 10:45:48 AM »
Looking for it. I believe it was linked from something on these boards.

There's this one, where he isn't quite as extreme: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/i-m-going-keep-pushing-anthony-fauci-tries-make-white-house-listen-facts-pandemic#

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1943 on: April 14, 2020, 10:49:40 AM »
There's this one, where he isn't quite as extreme: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/i-m-going-keep-pushing-anthony-fauci-tries-make-white-house-listen-facts-pandemic#

Still looking for the other one.
I seen that one and you need to keep looking because that one does not support what you posted. Take your time.  :)
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« Reply #1944 on: April 14, 2020, 10:55:38 AM »
I seen that one and you need to keep looking because that one does not support what you posted. Take your time.  :)

That one just says that things are intentionally said in those briefings in ways they can be misconstrued, against Dr. Fauci's advice.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1945 on: April 14, 2020, 10:57:34 AM »
That one just says that things are intentionally said in those briefings in ways they can be misconstrued, against Dr. Fauci's advice.
Where do you see that?

This does not sound like that:
Q: You’ve been in press conferences where things are happening that you disagree with, is that fair to say?
[/size]A:[/color][/size] [/color][/size]Well, I don’t disagree in the substance. It is expressed in a way that I would not express it, because it could lead to some misunderstanding about what the facts are about a given subject.[/color]

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1946 on: April 14, 2020, 11:17:46 AM »
That one just says that things are intentionally said in those briefings in ways they can be misconstrued, against Dr. Fauci's advice.
Your statement was about Dr Fauci. We know the press conferences is 90+% lies from Trump.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1947 on: April 14, 2020, 11:41:09 AM »
I can't find the interview, so I'm going to retract what I said.

I also "mis-spoke" in saying "what you hear him say in a WH press briefing." It should have said "what you hear said in a WH press briefing," which I believe is a much less controversial statement.
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« Reply #1948 on: April 14, 2020, 11:43:13 AM »
Where do you see that?

This does not sound like that:
Q: You’ve been in press conferences where things are happening that you disagree with, is that fair to say?
[/size]A:[/color][/size] [/color][/size]Well, I don’t disagree in the substance. It is expressed in a way that I would not express it, because it could lead to some misunderstanding about what the facts are about a given subject.[/color]

Earlier in the interview, he says that his wording gets shot down at the pre-briefing meetings. I take that to mean there are ways of saying things in a clear way to avoid misunderstandings, and the WH purposely chooses to use alternative wording that can lead to "facts being misunderstood."
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1949 on: April 14, 2020, 11:43:33 AM »
It should have said "what you hear said in a WH press briefing," which I believe is a much less controversial statement.
Not controversial at all. It is a fact.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1950 on: April 14, 2020, 12:02:01 PM »
We've gone through this before, and there are no good numbers to work with. I'll try to sum it up.

The issue with confirmed cases starts with our numbers in the US. We know most people with the virus didn't get tested. We also know that the accuracy of the tests has been reported to be as low as 50-60%. Both os these things are leading to greatly underreported confirmed cases here. To then compare our inaccurate numbers to those of other countries, who are administrating different tests in different ways and have a plethora of their own issues... let's just say it's very far from scientific.

Deaths are a little more accurate, but not by much. There are 2 main issues with comparing US deaths with other countries. The first is accuracy. The US has pretty accurate statistics on deaths, even those at home, but they aren't complete. While some other countries also have accurate death records, they are a tiny minority. Most countries don't have the infrastructure to report accurately on a good day, and definitely not during a crisis. The second issue with death numbers is that each country has their own standard for what they consider a Covid-19 related death. The US has the broadest definition. If you die in the US and Covid-19 is a factor, you count. Cancer, heart attack, kidney issue, degenerative disease - doesn't matter. If covid-19 played any kind of part, it counts. Other countries have a very wide variety of definitions, and they are more likely to have narrower criteria.

In other words, to do a comparative study, you need to compare apples to apples. We don't even know how many apples we have to compare to their oranges, cherries, or bananas.
Why does NYS have over  40% of all deaths of the country?

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« Reply #1951 on: April 14, 2020, 12:08:40 PM »
Why does NYS have over  40% of all deaths of the country?

Population density? One of the first points of entry? Higher rate of pre-existing conditions? Higher rate of smokers/vapers? Air quality? Climate? Your guess is as good as mine. But considering there are many who think we're just in the first inning of a 9 inning game, to start attributing percentages at this point is kind of pointless.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1952 on: April 14, 2020, 12:11:22 PM »
There's this one, where he isn't quite as extreme: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/i-m-going-keep-pushing-anthony-fauci-tries-make-white-house-listen-facts-pandemic#

Still looking for the other one.
What you are quoting is the way some in the media construed that interview.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1955 on: April 14, 2020, 12:24:09 PM »



https://www.instagram.com/p/B-94zNbDti_/?igshid=oocp4056ekcf


What is this?

From his IG post:
Preparing for burials of what appear to be more COVID-19 victims this morning on Hart Island, New York City. For over 150 years this island with no public access has been used to bury over a million souls who’s bodies were not claimed for private burial. With the morgues of NYC strained, the pace of burials on Hart Island has increased dramatically. I was cited by NYPD while taking this photo, and my drone was confiscated as evidence, for a court date tentatively scheduled for mid-August.

You can also see the inmates' trucks as they're hired for this job.


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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1956 on: April 14, 2020, 12:26:09 PM »



From his IG post:
Preparing for burials of what appear to be more COVID-19 victims this morning on Hart Island, New York City. For over 150 years this island with no public access has been used to bury over a million souls who’s bodies were not claimed for private burial. With the morgues of NYC strained, the pace of burials on Hart Island has increased dramatically. I was cited by NYPD while taking this photo, and my drone was confiscated as evidence, for a court date tentatively scheduled for mid-August.

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whats the citation for?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1957 on: April 14, 2020, 12:28:54 PM »

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1958 on: April 14, 2020, 12:30:33 PM »



From his IG post:
Preparing for burials of what appear to be more COVID-19 victims this morning on Hart Island, New York City. For over 150 years this island with no public access has been used to bury over a million souls who’s bodies were not claimed for private burial. With the morgues of NYC strained, the pace of burials on Hart Island has increased dramatically. I was cited by NYPD while taking this photo, and my drone was confiscated as evidence, for a court date tentatively scheduled for mid-August.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1959 on: April 16, 2020, 09:22:19 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources
Salacious reporting. I guess it doesn't really matter if it's true, right?
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