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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
« Reply #195 on: February 27, 2020, 12:53:51 PM »
how much would sucha plan cost?
It would obviously depend on the "full non-refundable trip cost" as well as other factors.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #197 on: February 27, 2020, 01:42:46 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/CORKosher/photos/a.276299072448388/2746275255450745/?type=3&theater

Seriously, people are insane.  There have only been a couple cases in the whole of Toronto and even if there were, not going to a kosher restaurant because of workers being immigrants from a certain country??  And all the people on here talking about cancelling travel plans that are nowhere near Asia or the Iranian city of Qom also seem like a total overreaction...

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #198 on: February 27, 2020, 01:46:01 PM »
Seriously, people are insane.  There have only been a couple cases in the whole of Toronto and even if there were, not going to a kosher restaurant because of workers being immigrants from a certain country??  And all the people on here talking about cancelling travel plans that are nowhere near Asia or the Iranian city of Qom also seem like a total overreaction...
Call me insane, but I'm uncomfortable traveling

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #199 on: February 27, 2020, 01:53:13 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/CORKosher/photos/a.276299072448388/2746275255450745/?type=3&theater
FTR If I walk into a restaurant and the cook is wearing a "clinical mask" and surgeon gloves I'm walking right out and not looking back...
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #200 on: February 27, 2020, 01:53:43 PM »
Call me insane, but I'm uncomfortable traveling


Ok you got: You are insane  :P


Seriously, the likelihood of getting it is SUPER small an then even if you did get it (assuming you are a healthy adult), the likelihood of you even having a case bad enough to go to the hospital is less than half, much less the likelihood of getting hospitalized and then having some kind of adverse outcome.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #201 on: February 27, 2020, 01:54:18 PM »
FTR If I walk into a restaurant and the cook is wearing a "clinical mask" and surgeon gloves I'm walking right out and not looking back...

LOL...so true! They are making the perceptions way worse....  :o

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #202 on: February 27, 2020, 02:01:04 PM »
Going back to the business impact, seems like El-Al is bracing for a loss - https://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3797312,00.html

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #203 on: February 27, 2020, 02:19:48 PM »


Ok you got: You are insane  :P


Seriously, the likelihood of getting it is SUPER small an then even if you did get it (assuming you are a healthy adult), the likelihood of you even having a case bad enough to go to the hospital is less than half, much less the likelihood of getting hospitalized and then having some kind of adverse outcome.

The likelihood of catching COVID19 isn't small, it's super contagious and the risk of catching during travel while unknown, it's certainly much higher risk than not traveling. And you're forgetting the chance of potentially getting quarantined for 14 days or denied entry. There's no way to plan for this, and there's no warnings. Italy was completely fine last week, but you'd have called someone crazy for canceling a trip to Milan.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #204 on: February 27, 2020, 02:23:58 PM »
LOL...so true! They are making the perceptions way worse....  :o
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #205 on: February 27, 2020, 02:32:20 PM »
The likelihood of catching COVID19 isn't small, it's super contagious and the risk of catching during travel while unknown, it's certainly much higher risk than not traveling. And you're forgetting the chance of potentially getting quarantined for 14 days or denied entry. There's no way to plan for this, and there's no warnings. Italy was completely fine last week, but you'd have called someone crazy for canceling a trip to Milan.


The likelihood of catching it while next to someone who has it isn't small but the likelihood of catching it on any single flight is most definitely TEENY! 

Of course it is more of a risk than not travelling but so what that is irrelevant.  Every single action we take has risks and costs (just like their are risks and costs to inaction) the relevant thing is the COST vs. RISK to not travelling and THAT is what people should objectively weigh.  I'm not advocating for unnecessary travel but do wish people would weigh appropriate risks to costs.  You are right, if you've got a pleasure trip and want to cancel, great because your cost is virtually zero (although as your article shows, the costs to these economies and industries is huge) but if I had a business meeting outside of any of these hot zones there is no way I'm missing that opportunity for some very small risk. 

It makes me sad that all these businesses are being affected by idiocy.  I was teasing the above poster but when I used the word insane I was referencing people not going to a Kosher Chinese restaurant in Toronto because of Corona virus, which is more than insane, it's totally idiotic and also really sad for the owners and employees of that business.
 

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #206 on: February 27, 2020, 02:32:52 PM »
FTR If I walk into a restaurant and the cook is wearing a "clinical mask" and surgeon gloves I'm walking right out and not looking back...
and if he doesn't that makes you more comfortable?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #207 on: February 27, 2020, 02:58:08 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/CORKosher/photos/a.276299072448388/2746275255450745/?type=3&theater
I just came here to post that :)

It's our only surviving chinese place. I hope it can weather this storm.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #208 on: February 27, 2020, 03:13:31 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/CORKosher/photos/a.276299072448388/2746275255450745/?type=3&theater
My gut feeling tells me that if this place is at risk of going under it's probably not actually because of coronavirus

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic
« Reply #209 on: February 27, 2020, 03:14:45 PM »
My gut feeling tells me that if this place is at risk of going under it's probably not actually because of coronavirus
Toronto restaurants go out of business on a regular day. Wouldn't take much to close most down.
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