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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread - COVID-19 related
« Reply #1995 on: April 22, 2020, 12:15:35 AM »
yes but it’s not your choice to not stay home when you might have it yourself and give it to others
Whoever doesn't want to get it should stay home. The same way you can say to stay home to save countless lives every day from car accidents, construction accidents etx
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1996 on: April 22, 2020, 09:50:06 AM »
just saw this- did it make it to master thread yet?

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/04/smith-sires-bill-requires-refund-money-for-canceled-air-travel-during-covid-19-pandemic.html

So the airlines will forgo seeking a loan/grant under CARES if this will end up costing them more. Instead they will still need a bailout and will get other money in a future bill that doesn’t have this provision. Same if they take the money and pass some of it on to consumers in the form of a cash refund, they’ll get another bailout if necessary.

No biggie, MSM is already talking about future legislation of another $1trillion!! in the coming months. No biggie, the stock market is booming and the government is going to print itself into oblivion.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1997 on: April 22, 2020, 11:33:05 AM »
So the airlines will forgo seeking a loan/grant under CARES if this will end up costing them more. Instead they will still need a bailout and will get other money in a future bill that doesn’t have this provision. Same if they take the money and pass some of it on to consumers in the form of a cash refund, they’ll get another bailout if necessary.

No biggie, MSM is already talking about future legislation of another $1trillion!! in the coming months. No biggie, the stock market is booming and the government is going to print itself into oblivion.

Hence MMT consideration

Are we there by default? Thoughts?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1998 on: April 22, 2020, 11:47:34 AM »
Every study that was done, shows that the fatality rate is not nearly what the experts had said.
(and anyone with common sense and no agenda has been saying this for a while)
https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-usc-study-antibody-la-county-covid-19/6118034/

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1999 on: April 22, 2020, 11:53:43 AM »
Every study that was done, shows that the fatality rate is not nearly what the experts had said.
(and anyone with common sense and no agenda has been saying this for a while)
https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-usc-study-antibody-la-county-covid-19/6118034/

The fatality rate I saw projected since mid-March was ~.4%. Considering .1% of the entire population of certain hard hit areas are already dead, why would that projection be wrong?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2001 on: April 22, 2020, 12:23:38 PM »
Whoever doesn't want to get it should stay home. The same way you can say to stay home to save countless lives every day from car accidents, construction accidents etx
And the same way we say that anyone who doesn't want to get hit by a drunk driver should stay off the roads instead of trying to prevent drunk driving.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2003 on: April 22, 2020, 01:27:43 PM »
Yid at the head of the Union. They rescinded this
Is it so pashut? Wouldn't Halacha mandate that if  there's one patient who's almost certainly going to die and one who will likely live with immediate medical attention, that the one likely to survive gets preferential treatment?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2004 on: April 22, 2020, 02:59:51 PM »
And the same way we say that anyone who doesn't want to get hit by a drunk driver should stay off the roads instead of trying to prevent drunk driving.
And on the same note we let 3k people die a day worldwide from car accidents. We are not saying stay home /  shelter in place / kill the economy, to save 3k lives.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2005 on: April 22, 2020, 03:06:42 PM »
And on the same note we let 3k people die a day worldwide from car accidents. We are not saying stay home /  shelter in place / kill the economy, to save 3k lives.
Moronic. For many reasons. I wont bark up this tree with you again. But for some context, more people have died of corona in the US over the last month than total traffic fatalities in the year in the US that saw the highest number of traffic fatalities EVER.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2006 on: April 22, 2020, 03:07:57 PM »
And on the same note we let 3k people die a day worldwide from car accidents. We are not saying stay home /  shelter in place / kill the economy, to save 3k lives.

you're smarter than this  8)

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2007 on: April 22, 2020, 03:31:06 PM »
Moronic. For many reasons. I wont bark up this tree with you again. But for some context, more people have died of corona in the US over the last month than total traffic fatalities in the year in the US that saw the highest number of traffic fatalities EVER.

you're smarter than this  8)

The questions we have to ask;
how does it affect different age groups etc.?
How fatal is this virus?
And a simple CBA of a SHELTER IN PLACE vs going about our daily lives with some common sense measures ?
it's not moronic to point out that 40k people die in the US annually from car accidents and never did we say "lets discuss banning cars"   

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2008 on: April 22, 2020, 03:33:56 PM »
common sense measures
These are rarely if ever common or sensical.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2009 on: April 22, 2020, 03:35:22 PM »

it's not moronic to point out that 40k people die in the US annually from car accidents and never did we say "lets discuss banning cars"   

We most definitely should discuss regulating who can get behind the wheel of a car and how to get rid of drivers who are unsafe. A great idea may be to require driveres to be licensed
Feelings don't care about your facts