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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2120 on: April 27, 2020, 04:59:16 PM »
Can someone explain to me why it's taking New Jersey so long to pull its act together? The stuff Murphy's talking about- Israel's been doing for weeks already. What was he doing for the last five weeks?!
Does the US have contact tracing and intelligence the way Israel does? Enforcement? Not really.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2121 on: April 27, 2020, 04:59:44 PM »
I'd assume you need to go in, but start with a call to her PCP.

Obviously all of this is after consultation with PCP (Geriatrician at the facility). He pointed out the various pros and cons and left the decision to us. We decided to send her for the CT scan, and BH everything is OK. Now I guess she needs to be monitored to make sure she didn't get infected with COVID-19 (probably unlikely, given the situation and restrictions in Israel).

Outpatient (non-hospital) CT Scan wasn't an option on a same-day basis. It's not easy getting things done in remote control. Luckily she's in a great facility.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2122 on: April 27, 2020, 05:02:28 PM »
Stay-at-home order gets shot down by a local judge. Says IL governor only has the emergency power for 30 days. It only applies to the one guy who filed.  :)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2123 on: April 27, 2020, 05:02:37 PM »
Does the US have contact tracing and intelligence the way Israel does? Enforcement? Not really.
Now he's TALKING about contact tracing and hotels. Seems to me they've done nothing at all in the weeks we've been home.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2124 on: April 27, 2020, 05:02:53 PM »
Question:
Can someone explain to me why it's taking New Jersey so long to pull its act together?
Answer:
The stuff Murphy's talking about
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2125 on: April 27, 2020, 05:12:47 PM »
Can someone explain to me why it's taking New Jersey so long to pull its act together? The stuff Murphy's talking about- Israel's been doing for weeks already. What was he doing for the last five weeks?!

I think this sums up the attitude for the Governor of NJ.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2126 on: April 27, 2020, 05:17:11 PM »
I'm all for public health. No one wants more people to get sick and die, chas v'shalom. But this sounds like he has no clue how to get NJ moving safely.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2128 on: April 27, 2020, 06:09:12 PM »
Stay-at-home order gets shot down by a local judge. Says IL governor only has the emergency power for 30 days. It only applies to the one guy who filed.  :)

What exactly does this guy want? Was he avoiding a fine? Trying to make a point?

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« Reply #2129 on: April 27, 2020, 06:11:29 PM »
What exactly does this guy want? Was he avoiding a fine? Trying to make a point?
Wants him to follow the law. It seems IL only allows a 30 day use of emergency powers. The IL house needs to vote to extend it now.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2130 on: April 27, 2020, 08:06:20 PM »
My gut tells me this is just someone or a group of people building a database such as the bone marrow or kidney testing drives that go on regularly and someone will be profiting off this. Dont get me wrong, people are tzadikim for contributing their time and for getting tested for many of these ventures.
Now we know at least who was behind it.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2131 on: April 27, 2020, 08:22:51 PM »
Now we know at least who was behind it.

https://www.covidplasmasavealife.com/affiliates
Are you saying this as a good thing or not good ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2132 on: April 27, 2020, 08:25:32 PM »
The test part is for @Dan

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2133 on: April 27, 2020, 08:29:40 PM »
Now we know at least who was behind it.

https://www.covidplasmasavealife.com/affiliates
Each of these was very public about it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2134 on: April 27, 2020, 09:05:58 PM »
Wants him to follow the law. It seems IL only allows a 30 day use of emergency powers. The IL house needs to vote to extend it now.
This makes sense, it's a good balance that doesn't leave emergency power unchecked.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2135 on: April 27, 2020, 09:42:35 PM »
 According to this article to see if the vaccine is affective you need 10,000 people and 13 with the placebo to get infected if so why can’t a simple clinical trial be done in New York State or elsewhere with 10,000 people that have antibodies and a X number who were not infected To prove if you can get reinfected with the virus?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-update-oxford.html

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2136 on: April 27, 2020, 09:47:07 PM »
Most of these were very public about it.
FTFY
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2137 on: April 27, 2020, 10:14:14 PM »
According to this article to see if the vaccine is affective you need 10,000 people and 13 with the placebo to get infected if so why can’t a simple clinical trial be done in New York State or elsewhere with 10,000 people that have antibodies and a X number who were not infected To prove if you can get reinfected with the virus?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-update-oxford.html

These trials are not just to prove the vaccine immunizes at least x (say 70-90%) of the recipients, see below:

I think the trial with 10,000 people  called a stage 3 clinical trial, which they do for 9 months.

They first do smaller stages that are with fewer people and over less time (1-3 months).

The reason they do these trials is:
1. The obvious, to ascertain that the vaccine immunizes a certain percentage of test participants
2. To see if there are any serious/widespread side effects
3. To make sure the vaccine doesn’t cause the opposite of the intended affect, where test participants who get infected with COVID-19 fare worse with the vaccine than those without. This has happened with other vaccines in the past and thus has to be ruled out before the vaccine is widely distributed, so it doesn’t end up doing more damage than good.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2138 on: April 27, 2020, 10:30:56 PM »
These trials are not just to prove the vaccine immunizes at least x (say 70-90%) of the recipients, see below:

I think the trial with 10,000 people  called a stage 3 clinical trial, which they do for 9 months.

They first do smaller stages that are with fewer people and over less time (1-3 months).

The reason they do these trials is:
1. The obvious, to ascertain that the vaccine immunizes a certain percentage of test participants
2. To see if there are any serious/widespread side effects
3. To make sure the vaccine doesn’t cause the opposite of the intended affect, where test participants who get infected with COVID-19 fare worse with the vaccine than those without. This has happened with other vaccines in the past and thus has to be ruled out before the vaccine is widely distributed, so it doesn’t end up doing more damage than good.
Based on that it should be even easier to prove immunity to the virus itself ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2139 on: April 27, 2020, 10:40:37 PM »
Based on that it should be even easier to prove immunity to the virus itself ?

That? It? Based on what would what be easier to prove?

These vaccines that have started or are going into clinical trials are highly likely to vaccinate, so much so that Bill Gates has already set out to manufacture millions of doses of 7 different vaccines that are starting clinical trials.

What is being tested is to confirm they’re effective (maybe even how effective they are) and most of all that they’re safe.