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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2130 on: April 27, 2020, 06:11:29 PM »
What exactly does this guy want? Was he avoiding a fine? Trying to make a point?
Wants him to follow the law. It seems IL only allows a 30 day use of emergency powers. The IL house needs to vote to extend it now.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2131 on: April 27, 2020, 08:06:20 PM »
My gut tells me this is just someone or a group of people building a database such as the bone marrow or kidney testing drives that go on regularly and someone will be profiting off this. Dont get me wrong, people are tzadikim for contributing their time and for getting tested for many of these ventures.
Now we know at least who was behind it.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2132 on: April 27, 2020, 08:22:51 PM »
Now we know at least who was behind it.

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Are you saying this as a good thing or not good ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2133 on: April 27, 2020, 08:25:32 PM »
The test part is for @Dan

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2134 on: April 27, 2020, 08:29:40 PM »
Now we know at least who was behind it.

https://www.covidplasmasavealife.com/affiliates
Each of these was very public about it.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2135 on: April 27, 2020, 09:05:58 PM »
Wants him to follow the law. It seems IL only allows a 30 day use of emergency powers. The IL house needs to vote to extend it now.
This makes sense, it's a good balance that doesn't leave emergency power unchecked.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2136 on: April 27, 2020, 09:42:35 PM »
 According to this article to see if the vaccine is affective you need 10,000 people and 13 with the placebo to get infected if so why can’t a simple clinical trial be done in New York State or elsewhere with 10,000 people that have antibodies and a X number who were not infected To prove if you can get reinfected with the virus?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2137 on: April 27, 2020, 09:47:07 PM »
Most of these were very public about it.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2138 on: April 27, 2020, 10:14:14 PM »
According to this article to see if the vaccine is affective you need 10,000 people and 13 with the placebo to get infected if so why can’t a simple clinical trial be done in New York State or elsewhere with 10,000 people that have antibodies and a X number who were not infected To prove if you can get reinfected with the virus?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-update-oxford.html

These trials are not just to prove the vaccine immunizes at least x (say 70-90%) of the recipients, see below:

I think the trial with 10,000 people  called a stage 3 clinical trial, which they do for 9 months.

They first do smaller stages that are with fewer people and over less time (1-3 months).

The reason they do these trials is:
1. The obvious, to ascertain that the vaccine immunizes a certain percentage of test participants
2. To see if there are any serious/widespread side effects
3. To make sure the vaccine doesn’t cause the opposite of the intended affect, where test participants who get infected with COVID-19 fare worse with the vaccine than those without. This has happened with other vaccines in the past and thus has to be ruled out before the vaccine is widely distributed, so it doesn’t end up doing more damage than good.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2139 on: April 27, 2020, 10:30:56 PM »
These trials are not just to prove the vaccine immunizes at least x (say 70-90%) of the recipients, see below:

I think the trial with 10,000 people  called a stage 3 clinical trial, which they do for 9 months.

They first do smaller stages that are with fewer people and over less time (1-3 months).

The reason they do these trials is:
1. The obvious, to ascertain that the vaccine immunizes a certain percentage of test participants
2. To see if there are any serious/widespread side effects
3. To make sure the vaccine doesn’t cause the opposite of the intended affect, where test participants who get infected with COVID-19 fare worse with the vaccine than those without. This has happened with other vaccines in the past and thus has to be ruled out before the vaccine is widely distributed, so it doesn’t end up doing more damage than good.
Based on that it should be even easier to prove immunity to the virus itself ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2140 on: April 27, 2020, 10:40:37 PM »
Based on that it should be even easier to prove immunity to the virus itself ?

That? It? Based on what would what be easier to prove?

These vaccines that have started or are going into clinical trials are highly likely to vaccinate, so much so that Bill Gates has already set out to manufacture millions of doses of 7 different vaccines that are starting clinical trials.

What is being tested is to confirm they’re effective (maybe even how effective they are) and most of all that they’re safe.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2141 on: April 27, 2020, 10:51:53 PM »
That? It? Based on what would what be easier to prove?

These vaccines that have started or are going into clinical trials are highly likely to vaccinate, so much so that Bill Gates has already set out to manufacture millions of doses of 7 different vaccines that are starting clinical trials.

What is being tested is to confirm they’re effective (maybe even how effective they are) and most of all that they’re safe.
Basicly what am asking is can vaccine immunize better the virus itself ?
All these tests sound focused on the vaccine safety etc.   can’t we first establish that the virus itself causes immunity ?

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