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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4440 on: August 08, 2021, 03:08:34 PM »
Aren't blacks the highest unvaccinated demographic?  They're usually  not Republicans.
R's are unvaccinated at a higher rate than D's. I can probably find some info if this is in dispute.

ETA: Most polls I see are along these lines: "Only 14% of Americans say they will definitely not get vaccinated. But this group is 69% white, compared with 7% Black and 12% Hispanic. Republicans make up 58% of this group, while Democrats account for 18%."

Now contrast this with school vaccines. I wouldn't expect there to be that disparity but could be wrong.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4441 on: August 08, 2021, 03:28:03 PM »
Big spread on this in last Sunday's NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/us/virus-unvaccinated-americans.html
Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.

Lots in the "wait and see" category, many of whom say they'll get vaxed when it gets full approval, expected to be in Sept.  (So if you're in that category, go before the announcement to avoid the crowds.)

Then there's the "definitely not" category, who say there's no way they'll be vaccinated.  In that group,
12% are Democrats
67% are Republicans

70% are White
5% are Black

48% are 30-49 yo
20% are 50-64
16% are 65+
15% are 18-29

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4442 on: August 08, 2021, 04:05:27 PM »
R's are unvaccinated at a higher rate than D's. I can probably find some info if this is in dispute.

ETA: Most polls I see are along these lines: "Only 14% of Americans say they will definitely not get vaccinated. But this group is 69% white, compared with 7% Black and 12% Hispanic. Republicans make up 58% of this group, while Democrats account for 18%."

Now contrast this with school vaccines. I wouldn't expect there to be that disparity but could be wrong.
Big spread on this in last Sunday's NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/us/virus-unvaccinated-americans.html
Who Are the Unvaccinated in America? There’s No One Answer.

Lots in the "wait and see" category, many of whom say they'll get vaxed when it gets full approval, expected to be in Sept.  (So if you're in that category, go before the announcement to avoid the crowds.)

Then there's the "definitely not" category, who say there's no way they'll be vaccinated.  In that group,
12% are Democrats
67% are Republicans

70% are White
5% are Black

48% are 30-49 yo
20% are 50-64
16% are 65+
15% are 18-29

This is not the discussion currently at hand. We're discussing how many are currently vaccinated, not how many will ultimately get vaccinated.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4443 on: August 08, 2021, 04:08:17 PM »
This is not the discussion currently at hand. We're discussing how many are currently vaccinated, not how many will ultimately get vaccinated.
Both are important and ultimately the unwilling will be the most important.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4444 on: August 08, 2021, 04:13:57 PM »
Is there a downside to getting the vaccine?
Wouldn't you want to save the vaccines for the poor countries as the WHO is begging

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4445 on: August 08, 2021, 04:15:50 PM »
Wouldn't you want to save the vaccines for the poor countries as the WHO is begging
Can you list the groups/people you don't hate?  :)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4446 on: August 08, 2021, 04:31:34 PM »
This is not the discussion currently at hand. We're discussing how many are currently vaccinated, not how many will ultimately get vaccinated.

Have you personally received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, or not?

Already vaccinated:

DEMOCRATS
18-49  78%
50-64  85%
65+     96%

REPUBLICANS
18-49  34%
50-64  63%
65+     72%

SOURCE: KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor (July 15-27, 2021)

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/?utm_source=web&utm_medium=trending&utm_campaign=COVID-19-vaccine-monitor

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4447 on: August 08, 2021, 04:38:39 PM »
Have you personally received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, or not?

Already vaccinated:

DEMOCRATS
18-49  78%
50-64  85%
65+     96%

REPUBLICANS
18-49  34%
50-64  63%
65+     72%

SOURCE: KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor (July 15-27, 2021)

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/?utm_source=web&utm_medium=trending&utm_campaign=COVID-19-vaccine-monitor
Any data w democrats vs. Republicans on antibodies? Didn't Republican states have more cases?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4448 on: August 08, 2021, 04:40:58 PM »
I can't believe some are questioning which group has a higher percentage on vaccinated.
Does anyone have any info saying the R's are vaccinated at a higher rate?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4449 on: August 08, 2021, 04:45:25 PM »
Any data w democrats vs. Republicans on antibodies? Didn't Republican states have more cases?
To my knowledge, no one is asked for political party when going for antibody test.  Perhaps some social researcher is studying this, but I doubt it.

There are reports of people getting sick or dying of covid who state their political leanings, and those are generally republicans, but that is expected, given that most infections are now among the unvaccinated, and most of the unvaccinated are republicans.

The data on red/blue states was really a first stab at trying to figure what was going on, before we had the kind of data we have now on r/d affiliations which is more meaningful.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4450 on: August 08, 2021, 04:55:46 PM »
Wouldn't you want to save the vaccines for the poor countries as the WHO is begging
Delta variant originated in one of these countries. It's to our benefit to inoculate as many people globally as possible - as unintuitive as it may seem. 

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4452 on: August 08, 2021, 08:38:35 PM »
Delta variant originated in one of these countries. It's to our benefit to inoculate as many people globally as possible - as unintuitive as it may seem.
So the hoarding of the vaccines going on in the us has actually backfired

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4453 on: August 08, 2021, 08:39:29 PM »
https://thelibertydaily.com/covid-outbreak-hits-carnival-cruise-despite-every-guest-and-staff-member-being-vaccinated/

Forgive me, I haven't been keeping up. Where are we in the current cycle of Covid Roulette? We're all gonna get it anyway?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4455 on: August 08, 2021, 11:44:39 PM »
Delta variant originated in one of these countries. It's to our benefit to inoculate as many people globally as possible - as unintuitive as it may seem. 
Or take control of the borders
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4456 on: August 08, 2021, 11:46:03 PM »
Or take control of the borders
How does that stop those flying into our major hubs?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4457 on: August 08, 2021, 11:55:21 PM »
How does that stop those flying into our major hubs?
Airports are also under the border control, why is it so easy for Israelis to come to the USA and so difficult for us to go to Israel?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4458 on: August 08, 2021, 11:59:46 PM »
Airports are also under the border control, why is it so easy for Israelis to come to the USA and so difficult for us to go to Israel?
So you want to close flights to the US for non-citizens?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4459 on: August 09, 2021, 12:04:46 AM »
So you want to close flights to the US for non-citizens?
Treat them the way they treat us, fair enough
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