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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4480 on: August 09, 2021, 08:42:30 PM »
I did. But if you watch the interview you see he pushes vaccine the entire time. Not much about vaccine. He says let’s focus on vaccinations and not on the mask debate

Does he or doesn't he say he wants to take back his ban on mask mandates?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4481 on: August 09, 2021, 08:43:26 PM »
I did. But if you watch the interview you see he pushes vaccine the entire time. Not much about vaccine. He says let’s focus on vaccinations and not on the mask debate
That is correct but he is moving on masks also. You use all the tools in your tool box to fight this.
Lets remember there is no vaccines for kids yet so what do we do?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4482 on: August 09, 2021, 08:44:31 PM »
Why haven’t they approved it in kids yet ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4483 on: August 09, 2021, 08:45:12 PM »
Does he or doesn't he say he wants to take back his ban on mask mandates?
Yes. He says it up to local authority. If it’s so important he should mandate it statewide

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4484 on: August 09, 2021, 10:02:07 PM »
That is correct but he is moving on masks also. You use all the tools in your tool box to fight this.
Lets remember there is no vaccines for kids yet so what do we do?
I totally get pushing vaccines to finish this thing over masks which just infuriate people (it is just the fact at this point for a significant portion of Americans) and won't help finish off Covid.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4485 on: August 09, 2021, 10:39:03 PM »

Lets remember there is no vaccines for kids yet so what do we do?
We get everyone else vaccinated

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4486 on: August 09, 2021, 11:19:01 PM »
We get everyone else vaccinated
All for that but you will have to mandate vaccines to get there.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4487 on: August 10, 2021, 08:03:52 AM »
https://twitter.com/asahutchinson/status/1424832448081403905
They only did 4200 PCR tests yesterday? In the entire state of Arkansas? And 20% of them came back positive?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4488 on: August 10, 2021, 08:34:47 AM »
They only did 4200 PCR tests yesterday? In the entire state of Arkansas? And 20% of them came back positive?
Apparently so. It was Trump’s idea to test less so numbers like better… you don’t even get covid hospitalizations/deaths if you don’t test at the hospitals…   The 20% positivity is probably artificially low because they aren’t prioritizing it correctly…

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4489 on: August 10, 2021, 08:37:57 AM »
Any data w democrats vs. Republicans on antibodies? Didn't Republican states have more cases?
Just look at the cases and hospitalizations. It’s crystal clear red states are getting hit far worse than blue
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4490 on: August 10, 2021, 08:51:31 AM »
Apparently so. It was Trump’s idea to test less so numbers like better… you don’t even get covid hospitalizations/deaths if you don’t test at the hospitals…   The 20% positivity is probably artificially low because they aren’t prioritizing it correctly…

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You seriously still blaming Trump nearly seven months after he's out of office? There's been plenty of time to correct testing policy since he's left office
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4491 on: August 10, 2021, 09:32:24 AM »
You seriously still blaming Trump nearly seven months after he's out of office? There's been plenty of time to correct testing policy since he's left office
I didn't blame him. I said he had the same idea. It's of course Arknasas's fault
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4492 on: August 10, 2021, 11:54:10 AM »
They only did 4200 PCR tests yesterday? In the entire state of Arkansas? And 20% of them came back positive?
Throughout COVID the numbers reported Monday were much lower than the rest of the week.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4496 on: August 12, 2021, 08:58:43 PM »
Here is the first plausible hypothesis I saw as to why waves end (there is no kind of herd immunity anywhere).

In short, the idea is that average R is driven by a few super spreaders, say, 10%. However, as the wave progresses, the growth of regular cases outpaces the super spreaders, diluting them from 10% to 5%, which in turn reduces the entire R below 1.

It is possible Delta is more concentrated in fewer superspreaders, hence waves peak earlier.

One explanation why there are more superspreaders in the beginning is because it starts by people who have many contacts and go out a lot, who constitute a large portion of the total cases, but eventually it hits people who are staying at home, lowering the average rate of contacts and transmission.

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https://twitter.com/whiterabbitwb/status/1425670091941634051
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4497 on: August 12, 2021, 09:18:49 PM »
Here is the first plausible hypothesis I saw as to why waves end (there is no kind of herd immunity anywhere).

In short, the idea is that average R is driven by a few super spreaders, say, 10%. However, as the wave progresses, the growth of regular cases outpaces the super spreaders, diluting them from 10% to 5%, which in turn reduces the entire R below 1.

It is possible Delta is more concentrated in fewer superspreaders, hence waves peak earlier.

One explanation why there are more superspreaders in the beginning is because it starts by people who have many contacts and go out a lot, who constitute a large portion of the total cases, but eventually it hits people who are staying at home, lowering the average rate of contacts and transmission.

@biobook would love your opinion if I understood these threads correctly.

https://twitter.com/whiterabbitwb/status/1425670091941634051
Do you insist that there is no immunity to the delta variant? Even the pro vax agree those that got the shot some are immune. And what about people with high antibody levels - also no immunity?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4498 on: August 12, 2021, 09:23:13 PM »
Do you insist that there is no immunity to the delta variant? Even the pro vax agree those that got the shot some are immune. And what about people with high antibody levels - also no immunity?

What does that have to do with what he wrote?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #4499 on: August 12, 2021, 09:26:39 PM »

@biobook would love your opinion if I understood these threads correctly.

ALOL when I got to that last line, because what had been going through my mind until that point was "I'm so glad PG is explaining this, because I'm sure that I would never have understood it."