COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread

[CountValentine]

I would trust a PCP giving me advice based on my individual case over some generic advice that appears to be tainted by outside factors

So if you get sick and hospitalized are you going to trust the doctors treating you which won't be the PCP.

[aygart]

So if you get sick and hospitalized are you going to trust the doctors treating you which won't be the PCP.

Someone sick and hospitalized will be getting advice based on his personal case

[CountValentine]

Someone sick and hospitalized will be getting advice based on his personal case

If you go in for a heart transplant your PCP will give background and that is it. Everything else will be up to you and your cardiologist. If you want to rely on your PCP then that is on you.

Your PCP refers you to a specialist for a reason. They are the ones who know best.

[aygart]

If you go in for a heart transplant your PCP will give background and that is it. Everything else will be up to you and your cardiologist. If you want to rely on your PCP then that is on you.

Your PCP refers you to a specialist for a reason. They are the ones who know best.

And the cardiologist will take and review a myriad of tests do see your specific case. It seems ridiculous that this is even a discussion.

[avromie7]

So you are going to trust a PCP instead of experts in the field? Would you trust a PCP over a Cardiologist if you had a heart condition?

-1000. What was tried is let's be dishonest and lie and when anyone calls us out we close our ears and scream as loud as possible. It's not wonder so many people don't trust the CDC.

The CDC has lied to us continuously, I trust just about anyone more than the CDC.

Additionally, the CDCs job is public health, they don't care about individuals.

[CountValentine]

And the cardiologist will take and review a myriad of tests do see your specific case. It seems ridiculous that this is even a discussion.

Of course. He is the expert you will/should rely on. Not your PCP. Any respectable PCP will tell you that.

The point is relying on your PCP and not the experts in field on vaccines is ridiculous.

[aygart]

Of course. He is the expert you will/should rely on. Not your PCP. Any respectable PCP will tell you that.

The point is relying on your PCP and not the experts in field on vaccines is ridiculous.

You are totally ignoring the distinction between personal and general advice

[CountValentine]

The CDC has lied to us continuously, I trust just about anyone more than the CDC.

Additionally, the CDCs job is public health, they don't care about individuals.

Would you trust infectious disease specialists about the virus?

[CountValentine]

You are totally ignoring the distinction between personal and general advice

No I am not. Where do you think most of your PCP advise is coming from?

[Lurker]

Would you trust infectious disease specialists about the virus?

No I am not. Where do you think most of your PCP advise is coming from?

You keep asking questions that miss the point. It doesn't matter how specialized the doctor is. If the advice in generalized and not given to an individual after independent analysis of his/her specific situation, it's worth less.

[aygart]

No I am not. Where do you think most of your PCP advise is coming from?

It was not addressed in your posts. If you think you are

Then I guess I am not understanding your point

He takes the information from doctors who specialize in an individual field and adapts it to your individual case based on his or her better ability to understand the underlying concepts than I am.

[CountValentine]

Additionally, the CDCs job is public health, they don't care about individuals.

...and here it is in a nutshell. You have an issue with the CDC being concerned about the whole country and not just one individual like yourself.

[CountValentine]

You keep asking questions that miss the point.

No, they don't like the point I am making.

Are healthy individuals trusting their PCP over experts in the field. Lets make this easy. Were should a healthy individual get there information if they should get the vaccine or not? Should they ask their PCP or just look at all the info from numerous experts in the field out there?

[Lurker]

...and here it is in a nutshell. You have an issue with the CDC being concerned about the whole country and not just one individual like yourself.

There are basic rules/advice for general financial stability, and then there is personalized advice catered to an individual's personal financial situation. You wouldn't go with the general advice if your situation called for a different strategy, but you also wouldn't have an issue with general advice being given. It's not a contradiction.

The CDC has its place. They are supposed to give generalized guidance to the country. However, each person should give more weight to medical advice catered to their specific situation. The issue with the CDC isn't that they look out for a the country's overall health. The issue is that they've been over politicized since the beginning of this pandemic, and their guidance has been opaque, with little nuance or explanations.

[aygart]

No, they don't like the point I am making.

Are healthy individuals trusting their PCP over experts in the field. Lets make this easy. Were should a healthy individual get there information if they should get the vaccine or not? Should they ask their PCP or just look at all the info from numerous experts in the field out there?

Who knows how to interpret the information and apply it to my individual situation better, me or my PCP?

[CountValentine]

There are basic rules/advice for general financial stability, and then there is personalized advice catered to an individual's personal financial situation. You wouldn't go with the general advice if your situation called for a different strategy, but you also wouldn't have an issue with general advice being given. It's not a contradiction.

The CDC has its place. They are supposed to give generalized guidance to the country. However, each person should give more weight to medical advice catered to their specific situation. The issue with the CDC isn't that they look out for a the country's overall health. The issue is that they've been over politicized since the beginning of this pandemic, and their guidance has been opaque, with little nuance or explanations.

I get all that. They are "rare" medical situations where you should not get the vaccine. Other than those situations your PCP opinion is meaningless. Get the vaccine!!!

I should add if you have a rare medical condition I hope you are taking the advice of the specialist that is treating you and not your PCP.

[Lurker]

I get all that. They are "rare" medical situations where you should not get the vaccine. Other than those situations your PCP opinion is meaningless. Get the vaccine!!!

Is that your professional medical opinion? People should listen to you over their medically trained PCP and just get the damn vaccine?

[Yehuda57]

Every public health ad I've seen or heard about the vaccine says "speak to your doctor".

General guidelines are just that, general. Every individual needs to speak to their doctor.

I get all that. They are "rare" medical situations where you should not get the vaccine. Other than those situations your PCP opinion is meaningless. Get the vaccine!!!

I should add if you have a rare medical condition I hope you are taking the advice of the specialist that is treating you and not your PCP.

And yet such a person would still not allowed to eat in a restaurant in NY. This is one of the problems with mandates which you have not addressed.

[CountValentine]

Is that your professional medical opinion? People should listen to you over their medically trained PCP and just get the damn vaccine?

NO NO NO!!! Listen to the experts in the field. I going to bet many if not most young adults don't have a PCP. Who should they listen to?

[CountValentine]

And yet such a person would still not allowed to eat in a restaurant in NY. This is one of the problems with mandates which you have not addressed.

Sorry if I missed this one as this is an easy one. Vaccination ID, how is that for opening a can of worms?