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« Last edited by Joel on July 19, 2021, 01:49:19 AM »

Author Topic: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread  (Read 644046 times)

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5080 on: May 07, 2023, 09:15:17 PM »
"Placing randomized trials above other types of research such as observational, lab and modeling studies, has interfered with the COVID response."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/masks-work-distorting-science-to-dispute-the-evidence-doesnt/

I didn’t read the article but each of these approaches have their pros and cons and the advantage of randomized studies FWIU is that they’re more reliable.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5081 on: May 25, 2023, 04:51:35 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/371935

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srael's Health Ministry: No young adults without preexisting conditions died of COVID-19
Health Ministry says 0 reports of people 18-50 dying of COVID-19 without preexisting conditions - but bases its information only on epidemiological investigations.
Israel National News

  May 25, 2023, 9:53 AM (GMT+3)

Former MK Moshe Feiglin published on Twitter a Health Ministry response to queries regarding various coronavirus statistics.

In the document, the Health Ministry clarified that no adults without preexisting conditions who were between the ages of 18-49 at the time of their death, died of coronavirus.

At the same time, the Ministry emphasized that its information is "based on information which the patients themselves or their family members volunteered as part of an epidemiological investigation, if an investigation was conducted and the patient chose to share [the information] with the investigator."

Therefore, the Ministry emphasized, "The existing information does not necessarily reflect the patient's medical situation."

Feiglin, however, wrote that the government "locked you up in your homes, and stole a year of normal education from your children...all for a 'plague' which hurt zero citizens below the age of 50 without preexisting conditions."

Feiglin's statement ignores the significant burden of long COVID, which affects between 10-50% of those infected with COVID-19; 65% of those individuals were still suffering 1.5 years later. At the same time, it raises the question of how much a society is willing to do in order to protect its most vulnerable members.

The query to the Health Ministry also included a question on how many cardiac arrest events occurred annually between the years 2018-2022. Responding to this, the Health Ministry provided information on the years 2018-2020, but said that it had not yet received the information for the years 2021-2022, and thus could not provide this information.

Regarding the queries on the average age of death for vaccinated, unvaccinated, and partially-vaccinated individuals, the Health Ministry reported that vaccinated individuals who died of coronavirus died at an average age of 80.2, while those who were not vaccinated and died of coronavirus died at an average age of 77.4. For those who had been vaccinated but had missed their booster doses, the average age of death from coronavirus was 80.8.

1 comment: Was this also the case with the initial strain that hit the US in March? Or just the strain that hit Israel in April?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5082 on: May 25, 2023, 10:59:51 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/371935

1 comment: Was this also the case with the initial strain that hit the US in March? Or just the strain that hit Israel in April?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5083 on: May 25, 2023, 11:30:29 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/371935

1 comment: Was this also the case with the initial strain that hit the US in March? Or just the strain that hit Israel in April?

Was what the case? 0 deaths for "healthy" 18-49 year old's? Quick google gave me 3 deaths in a "small" subset of the US population from Mar 1 - Aug 1 2020, although the more search savvy members may be able to find more comprehensive data.

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Among 513 adults aged 18–49 years without underlying medical conditions hospitalized with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) during March 2020–August 2020, 22% were admitted to an intensive care unit, 10% required mechanical ventilation, and 3 patients died (0.6%). These data demonstrate that healthy younger adults can develop severe COVID-19.

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...This analysis used data from 13 states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Tennessee, and Utah)... This analysis was limited to patients with completed medical chart abstractions and a discharge disposition (ie, discharged or died in-hospital).

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During 1 March 2020–1 August 2020, 44 865 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 were identified through COVID-NET. Adults aged 18–49 years represented 29.3% (n = 13 167) of all hospitalized patients. Of the 13 167 patients aged 18–49 years, 3720 (28.3%) had medical chart abstractions completed (Supplementary Figure 1). Among these 3720 patients, 2.7% (n = 101) did not have information on underlying conditions. Of the remaining 3619 patients, 14.2% (n = 513) had no underlying conditions and were included in the analysis.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7799269/


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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5084 on: May 25, 2023, 11:31:22 AM »

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5085 on: May 29, 2023, 03:50:28 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/371935


Doubt anyone's interested in this topic at this point but it seems the Israel MOH posted a response on twitter last week:



https://twitter.com/IsraelMOH/status/1661658374683910152

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5086 on: May 31, 2023, 10:13:58 PM »
The WHO has a track-record of being wrong about everything COVID related.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5088 on: July 21, 2023, 10:22:51 AM »
Long thread:
https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl/status/1682177064361771009

Yet another damning indictment on the "science" of covid.


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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5089 on: July 21, 2023, 10:33:03 AM »
But we were all alt right wing science denying anti vaccine conspiracy theorists.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5090 on: July 23, 2023, 05:49:17 PM »
Anything going around Lakewood now. Whopper of a virus for the summer hitting us as well as a couple others I know.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5091 on: July 23, 2023, 07:13:52 PM »
Anything going around Lakewood now. Whopper of a virus for the summer hitting us as well as a couple others I know.
Some of my kids had some sort of virus a couple weeks ago. 105 fever at night.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5092 on: July 23, 2023, 07:32:29 PM »
Some of my kids had some sort of virus a couple weeks ago. 105 fever at night.
One of mine had this a couple of weeks ago as well. High fever, no specific complaints. Doctor said there's a virus going around.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5093 on: July 23, 2023, 07:41:02 PM »
One of mine had this a couple of weeks ago as well. High fever, no specific complaints. Doctor said there's a virus going around.
One daughter had 102 with head and arm aching last week.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5094 on: July 24, 2023, 12:06:16 AM »
Anything going around Lakewood now. Whopper of a virus for the summer hitting us as well as a couple others I know.
Feels like there's no sick season anymore, it's just all year round now. I've had kids come down with strep multiple times this year already.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5097 on: July 31, 2023, 02:48:12 PM »
tl;dr?
Revisiting the moral obligation to vaccinate.

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Below, I will highlight what I believe to be specific shortcomings in the article:
The reader is given imprecise information about the risk of COVID by failing to distinguish between the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of the young and the elderly.
It does not properly consider other legitimate epidemiological responses, like the Swedish approach and therefore creates a narrow epidemiological response focused on vaccination.
It does not substantiate its claims of COVID vaccine efficacy.
It neglects to acknowledge psychological effects of the social ostracization of those who do not vaccinate.

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Halakha permits, encourages, and likely even obligates Rachel to get a COVID-19 vaccination for herself and her children in order to protect herself and others from infection, help create herd immunity, and end the pandemic. Similarly, schools and communities should require a COVID-19 vaccination despite parents’ reluctance. We believe that failure to vaccinate violates the prohibition to stand idly by another’s blood. 

We hope that a safe and effective vaccine will be developed and disseminated in the very near future. It is our best hope to alleviate the worldwide suffering and to arrest the horrific death toll brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic. When it does arrive, we feel that it is morally obligatory and halakhically mandated that people accept the vaccine.

Seems that they will respond to this letter tomorrow.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #5099 on: August 01, 2023, 11:01:43 AM »
Where in Lakewood can I get my booster?
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