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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #380 on: March 03, 2020, 06:02:26 PM »
4/6 deaths in Washington State were from the same nursing home.

Up to 9 deaths in WA already most from the same place.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #381 on: March 03, 2020, 10:30:10 PM »
What's the endgame here? Schools close for 1 day, and then what?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #382 on: March 03, 2020, 10:48:18 PM »
What's the endgame here? Schools close for 1 day, and then what?
HAHA i was wondering the same thing today!
Turns out i saw an email from the schools that they want everyone get tested and have the school thoroughly cleaned.
Not sure exactly if that helps but that was the plan.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #383 on: March 04, 2020, 06:57:16 AM »
From Rabbi Dr Aaron Glatt yesterday via the Young Israel of Woodmere:

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I am sure everyone is aware of the unfortunate case of COVID-19 identified in a man in Westchester that has led to the recommendation that a shul and a Yeshiva should be temporarily closed. We all hope and pray that he has a refuah shelaima and that no additional cases occur.

In the latter regard, and in the hope of diminishing the high levels of anxiety prevalent, I wanted to reassure the community that very little has practically changed regarding the recommendations we sent out erev Shabbos.

Indeed, a very positive study was reported just hours ago from the CDC. This MMWR “early release” report provides some comfort to the COVID-19 hysteria. This study looked at the first 10 cases in the US with travel-related COVID-19 and the risk to their household contacts. .
In these 10 cases, only two instances of person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 have been documented. The details are as follows.

Among the first 10 patients with travel-related confirmed COVID-19 reported in the United States, a total of 445 persons who had close contact with one of the 10 patients on or after the date of the patient’s symptom onset were identified.

Nineteen (4%) of the 445 contacts were members of a patient’s household, and five of these 19 contacts continued to have household exposure to the patient with confirmed COVID-19 during the patient’s isolation period; 104 (23%) were community members who spent at least 10 minutes within 6 feet of a patient with confirmed disease; 100 (22%) were community members who were exposed (defined as at least 10 minutes spent within 6 feet of the patient) in a health care setting; and 222 (50%) were health care personnel.

Reassuring Results: Two persons who were household members of patients with confirmed COVID-19 tested positive. However, despite intensive follow-up, no sustained person-to-person transmission of symptomatic COVID-19 was observed in the United States among the other close contacts of the first 10 persons with diagnosed travel-related COVID-19.

Boruch Hashem - community exposure in this study was not found. That does NOT mean it is not a risk - but probably it is not as bad as many of you think. And while it is one small study, everyone needs to take a deep breath.

Rabbi Aaron E. Glatt, MD

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #384 on: March 04, 2020, 07:05:58 AM »
From Rabbi Dr Aaron Glatt yesterday via the Young Israel of Woodmere:

TLDR; out of 445 known exposed contacts, only 2 were tested and the rest were “observed” for a few days for symptoms and released to infect everyone else. No need to worry about asymptotic transmission or long incubation periods, because we don’t have test kits in the US. Also LifeCare never happened.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #385 on: March 04, 2020, 07:43:47 AM »
Being exposed to someone with a disease does not mean that "there is a likelihood that it has already spread from him to others in the frum community."

Merely being in the same room with someone is not enough to catch this.

Even shaking his hand would not be enough if he did not have secretions on his hand and the person who shook his hand did not go to his own mouth or nose with his hand afterwards.

Although it is possible that someone could have caught it, I think that its a leap to say that "there is a likelihood that it has already spread from him to others in the frum community."

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #387 on: March 04, 2020, 07:56:24 AM »
I just don’t get it. We’ve had 3 months to prepare and learn from what’s going on in China, and still the US displaying the competence of a 3rd world country. No test kits available, very narrow testing criteria that is missing tons of cases, proper contamination procedures are not in place almost anywhere, and a severe shortage of PPE. The only containment measure in place is to tell people not to panic because the known “immediate” risk is still low, despite the fact that they're expecting it to be a full blown breakout very soon.

And with 9 deaths out of 21 cases in WA, that means we don’t know about most cases besides the most severe ones, and only weeks after they became infected. The early progress of the infected/deaths ratio most resembles the numbers that first came out of Iran. Really sad.

https://kuow.org/stories/what-s-with-this-protective-medical-gear-readers-wrote-in-worried
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #388 on: March 04, 2020, 08:27:06 AM »
https://www.yu.edu/health-alert

"We have unfortunately received news this morning that our student has tested positive for COVID-19. Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family as well as to all those affected."

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #389 on: March 04, 2020, 09:11:02 AM »
https://www.yu.edu/health-alert

"We have unfortunately received news this morning that our student has tested positive for COVID-19. Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family as well as to all those affected."

Hashem yerachem

Amen - they are a very special family.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #390 on: March 04, 2020, 09:16:58 AM »
I just don’t get it. We’ve had 3 months to prepare and learn from what’s going on in China, and still the US displaying the competence of a 3rd world country. No test kits available, very narrow testing criteria that is missing tons of cases, proper contamination procedures are not in place almost anywhere, and a severe shortage of PPE. The only containment measure in place is to tell people not to panic because the known “immediate” risk is still low, despite the fact that they're expecting it to be a full blown breakout very soon.

And with 9 deaths out of 21 cases in WA, that means we don’t know about most cases besides the most severe ones, and only weeks after they became infected. The early progress of the infected/deaths ratio most resembles the numbers that first came out of Iran. Really sad.

https://kuow.org/stories/what-s-with-this-protective-medical-gear-readers-wrote-in-worried

Well, when the only thing on everyone's mind is getting trump out of office and the only thing Trump cares about is him staying in it.....
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #391 on: March 04, 2020, 10:12:24 AM »
https://abc7ny.com/health/cuomo-positive-case-of-coronavirus-in-westchester-county/5981682/

Another confirmed case in NY.
Westchester Day School is closed, in addition to SAR Academy. Both schools are associated with the Westchester County man who has tested positive.

Nebach! The whole family now  :'(

https://abc7ny.com/health/family-neighbor-of-westchester-covid-19-patient-test-positive/5984230/
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #392 on: March 04, 2020, 10:34:23 AM »

Given the incubation period and the fact that it’s a frum guy who presumably goes to shul it is exceedingly likely that it is already becoming widespread in the frum community as we speak.

Being exposed to someone with a disease does not mean that "there is a likelihood that it has already spread from him to others in the frum community."

Merely being in the same room with someone is not enough to catch this.

Even shaking his hand would not be enough if he did not have secretions on his hand and the person who shook his hand did not go to his own mouth or nose with his hand afterwards.

Although it is possible that someone could have caught it, I think that its a leap to say that "there is a likelihood that it has already spread from him to others in the frum community."

I sincerely hope you turn out to be right. Unfortunately I highly doubt it.


Nebach! The whole family now  :'(

https://abc7ny.com/health/family-neighbor-of-westchester-covid-19-patient-test-positive/5984230/

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #393 on: March 04, 2020, 10:46:53 AM »
Are people canceling Pesach plans, such as traveling to a program,or Israel, due to Covid 19??

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #394 on: March 04, 2020, 11:28:25 AM »
Are people canceling Pesach plans, such as traveling to a program,or Israel, due to Covid 19??
According to YWN - Yes.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #395 on: March 04, 2020, 11:43:05 AM »

Yesterday there was a quote from the WHO that you cant infect during incubation period, which was different than they were saying before. Not sure what's correct
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #396 on: March 04, 2020, 11:50:44 AM »
Yesterday there was a quote from the WHO that you cant infect during incubation period, which was different than they were saying before. Not sure what's correct

Possibly just trying to lower the global panic levels.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #397 on: March 04, 2020, 12:11:29 PM »
Possibly just trying to lower the global panic levels.
If true, that would be irresponsible and counterproductive, transparency is key to fighting this, and figuring out if its an actual threat.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #398 on: March 04, 2020, 01:26:00 PM »
Israel going draconian on travel restrictions.

Germany, France, Switzerland, and Austria are joining the list of restricted countries. Israelis coming from those countries will need to be quarantined for 14 days. Non-Israelis will be denied entry. However, connections through airports in those countries don't fall under the restrictions. The restrictions on non-Israelis go into effect Friday.

https://13news.co.il/item/news/domestic/health/coronavirus-israel-france-1020020/
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #399 on: March 04, 2020, 01:31:38 PM »
Yesterday there was a quote from the WHO that you cant infect during incubation period, which was different than they were saying before. Not sure what's correct

There are research studies that prove otherwise. A famous case is a woman that infected 5 family members but never had any symptoms.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission-chinese-woman-relatives-2020-2
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