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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #401 on: March 04, 2020, 01:37:18 PM »
Israel going draconian on travel restrictions.

Germany, France, Switzerland, and Austria are joining the list of restricted countries. Israelis coming from those countries will need to be quarantined for 14 days. Non-Israelis will be denied entry. However, connections through airports in those countries don't fall under the restrictions. The restrictions on non-Israelis go into effect Friday.

https://13news.co.il/item/news/domestic/health/coronavirus-israel-france-1020020/

how much longer till the US is on the list

how long can israel survive economically  with these measures in place

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #402 on: March 04, 2020, 01:40:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1235270677726482432

Thanks for retweeting this, it made my day. The choleh is a real mensch and he and his family are baalei chessed.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #403 on: March 04, 2020, 01:45:30 PM »
how long can israel survive economically  with these measures in place

They'll just have to increase natural gas sales to their neighbors to make up for the drop in tourism.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #404 on: March 04, 2020, 03:19:01 PM »
Just a thought - It's sad that us Orthodox Jews are probably more at risk than almost any demographic, 3x daily praying in shul, countless massive weddings, mikvahs, and we don't hear a peep from any community leaders and organizations, shuls, or schools, not one of them are taking it seriously.

What are we doing to prepare? How will we avoid massive infection in shuls? Why does anyone just want to talk about how the risk is low, that it's all hype, and we are all fine?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #405 on: March 04, 2020, 04:05:06 PM »
Just a thought - It's sad that us Orthodox Jews are probably more at risk than almost any demographic, 3x daily praying in shul, countless massive weddings, mikvahs, and we don't hear a peep from any community leaders and organizations, shuls, or schools, not one of them are taking it seriously.

What are we doing to prepare? How will we avoid massive infection in shuls? Why does anyone just want to talk about how the risk is low, that it's all hype, and we are all fine?

not sure where you live but i have had numerous email from Achiezer regarding outbreak.

What do you want the community leaders to say exactly?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #406 on: March 04, 2020, 04:11:56 PM »
Just a thought - It's sad that us Orthodox Jews are probably more at risk than almost any demographic, 3x daily praying in shul, countless massive weddings, mikvahs, and we don't hear a peep from any community leaders and organizations, shuls, or schools, not one of them are taking it seriously.

What are we doing to prepare? How will we avoid massive infection in shuls? Why does anyone just want to talk about how the risk is low, that it's all hype, and we are all fine?

The following message was sent by Rabbi Aaron Glatt, MD, a specialist in infectious diseases, the assistant rabbi and the Young Israel if Woodmere, and father of former K.I.N.S. members, Ari and Michelle Glatt.

May you have a Shabbat Shalom, and may all who are affected by this illness have a refuah shlaima!


February 28, 2020
ג׳ אדר תש״פ

While the new novel coronavirus, COVID-19, has caused illness that has been widely covered in the news media, and the number of cases worldwide has grown substantially with 80,000+ confirmed cases worldwide in about 40 countries, there are still no confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New York State or the New York metropolitan region. However, with the first case of unclear transmission in the US just described in California, we wanted to update our shul goers.
There are currently no specific recommendations for shuls, although we will continue to update the shul should new information become available.
If you have not traveled to an area where COVID-19 is prevalent or been in close contact with a traveler, and you develop respiratory symptoms, it remains likely that you have a seasonal illness like the flu rather than COVID-19.
At the present time, we urge common-sense and regular hand washing (as appropriate), with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, or with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer if soap and water are not available.
Good personal hygiene practices, including covering coughs and sneezes are also important. To do this optimally, cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, and then throw the tissue in the trash and wash your hands. If you don’t have a tissue available, cough or sneeze into your elbow.
Other appropriate actions include avoiding touching your eyes, nose and mouth and disinfect objects and surfaces that are frequently handled.
At this time, we do not have a strict recommendation against hand shaking or kissing the sefer Torah or mezzuzos for people who are not at all sick. Use common sense.
The CDC does NOT recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory illnesses, including COVID-19. Facemasks should only be used by lay people who have symptoms of respiratory diseases, and who must be in public - to help prevent the spread of the disease to others.
Most importantly, several great poskim have personally told me and clearly stated that one must stay home and not go to shul if you are sick with a potentially contagious respiratory illness.
This is a good time to remind everyone that over 30,000,000 people in the US this season have gotten flu, with between 16,000-30,000 deaths, including over 100 children. Flu vaccination is still indicated! By not getting or transmitting flu, you will not only save lives, but you will greatly help doctors who will have less patients to evaluate with unknown respiratory illnesses.
We should make sure there are alcohol-based hand sanitizers in the lobby areas. Custodial staff should be diligently cleaning our shuls and checking dispensers for hand soap and hand sanitizer to ensure that they are filled at all times.
If you recently traveled to a country with ongoing person-to-person transmission of COVID-19: As long as you are asymptomatic, you are probably not a risk to others. However, it is prudent to check your temperature twice a day and monitor for any respiratory symptoms for at least 14 days from the time you left that country. If you have any symptoms or fever, see your doctor as soon as possible, but call the office or center first so they can appropriately isolate you upon entry to the office before they evaluate you.
May our teffilos be accepted by Hashem and may this epidemic soon end.
Rabbi Aaron E. Glatt, MD


From Rabbi Dr Aaron Glatt yesterday via the Young Israel of Woodmere:
Dear Members:

I am sure everyone is aware of the unfortunate case of COVID-19 identified in a man in Westchester that has led to the recommendation that a shul and a Yeshiva should be temporarily closed. We all hope and pray that he has a refuah shelaima and that no additional cases occur.

In the latter regard, and in the hope of diminishing the high levels of anxiety prevalent, I wanted to reassure the community that very little has practically changed regarding the recommendations we sent out erev Shabbos.

Indeed, a very positive study was reported just hours ago from the CDC. This MMWR “early release” report provides some comfort to the COVID-19 hysteria. This study looked at the first 10 cases in the US with travel-related COVID-19 and the risk to their household contacts. .
In these 10 cases, only two instances of person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 have been documented. The details are as follows.

Among the first 10 patients with travel-related confirmed COVID-19 reported in the United States, a total of 445 persons who had close contact with one of the 10 patients on or after the date of the patient’s symptom onset were identified.

Nineteen (4%) of the 445 contacts were members of a patient’s household, and five of these 19 contacts continued to have household exposure to the patient with confirmed COVID-19 during the patient’s isolation period; 104 (23%) were community members who spent at least 10 minutes within 6 feet of a patient with confirmed disease; 100 (22%) were community members who were exposed (defined as at least 10 minutes spent within 6 feet of the patient) in a health care setting; and 222 (50%) were health care personnel.

Reassuring Results: Two persons who were household members of patients with confirmed COVID-19 tested positive. However, despite intensive follow-up, no sustained person-to-person transmission of symptomatic COVID-19 was observed in the United States among the other close contacts of the first 10 persons with diagnosed travel-related COVID-19.

Boruch Hashem - community exposure in this study was not found. That does NOT mean it is not a risk - but probably it is not as bad as many of you think. And while it is one small study, everyone needs to take a deep breath.

Rabbi Aaron E. Glatt, MD

And that's just from one of my kid's schools.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #407 on: March 04, 2020, 04:47:51 PM »
not sure where you live but i have had numerous email from Achiezer regarding outbreak.

What do you want the community leaders to say exactly?

What measures are we taking to stop the spread? Why are shuls not texting me about their new safety measures, like sanitizing and disinfecting? Are schools/shuls serving food with proper hygiene or are they risking infecting an entire school?

And that's just from one of my kid's schools.

Don't see anything policies or recommendations for specific schools, shuls or other public places. Or how they plan to deal with any outbreaks.

From your first message -
"There are currently no specific recommendations for shuls, although we will continue to update the shul should new information become available."

And the second piece reads like a piece of propaganda or just plain ignorance.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #408 on: March 04, 2020, 04:48:10 PM »
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Notification issued 03-04-2020 at 4:42 PM. Mayor Bill de Blasio today updated New Yorkers on the City's preparedness efforts regarding COVID-19. The NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, in partnership with New York City Emergency Management, has distributed guidance to all agencies and partners. The Mayor has convened four agency wide tabletops to discuss these preparations. This week, all City agencies that oversee congregate and community spaces are implementing enhanced cleaning guidance modeled after the Department of Education's enhanced protocols.

For more information on the City's response, visit: https://on.nyc.gov/38tBEpP

For Coronavirus preparedness tips and safety info, visit: www.NYC.gov/coronavirus.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #409 on: March 04, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »
Reposting bec. it was deleted - here's a type of letter that all schools and shuls should be writing.

Dear Parents,
 
While we are all following the news of the Coronavirus as it impacts the greater New York community, please be assured that we are in touch with the local and State Department of Health, as well as with medical professionals.
 
At this time, we have been advised to continue encouraging students to cover coughs or sneeze with a tissue (or elbow), throw the tissue in the trash and wash and sanitize their hands. Since Sunday, we began additional disinfecting for bathrooms, door knobs, etc. In addition to our wall mountain hand sanitizers throughout the campus, a gracious parent has ordered portable dispensers for every room in the yeshiva.
 
If your son has a cold/fever/etc, he should not come to school until he has been cleared by a doctor. (This is the same protocol that we follow for flu.)
 
In case we are ever faced with a situation where we are instructed to close the yeshiva, we will be ready with a plan to continue our learning via computer.
 
Please note, that children may be frightened by the many rumors flying around, and it is important to understand and address any fears they may have. (We have attached a kid - friendly info-graphic that you may choose to share with them if you feel that it is appropriate. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/28/809580453/just-for-kids-a-comic-exploring-the-new-coronavirus )
 
As always, we understand that everything is in HASHEM's hands, and we daven that he continue to watch over his children.  Please reach out to us if you have any additional questions or concerns.


Sincerely,

THE HANHALA
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #410 on: March 04, 2020, 05:30:08 PM »
It seems like the low number of confirmed cases in the US until recently was just a lack of testing. If you can't test, then there are no confirmed cases. But it seems like once they started expanding the testing, we are getting so many positive cases. My guess is that we have thousands of undetected cases of the virus in the US by now.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #412 on: March 04, 2020, 06:09:37 PM »
Unfortunately it seems my assumption that is was highly likely to have already been proliferating in the frum community was correct:

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1837734/breaking-another-jewish-family-in-new-rochelle-infected-with-coronavirus-father-mother-two-sons-daughter.html

“There are going to be hundreds in Westchester,” Cuomo said of his expectation going forward. “The number of people who will be infected will continue to increase. It is going to be dozens and dozens and dozens

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #413 on: March 04, 2020, 07:19:51 PM »
Costco by me tonight.

No more water and limiting long shelf life items to 5 per person.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #415 on: March 04, 2020, 07:36:57 PM »
how long can israel survive economically  with these measures in place
Which sectors other than tourism (which accounts for a very small percentage of its GDP) would be drastically affected?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #416 on: March 04, 2020, 08:40:54 PM »
BREAKING: New Jersey reports first case of coronavirus

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235377077605617667
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #417 on: March 04, 2020, 08:47:46 PM »
What's the point of breaking news on new cases. Very soon it will be as widespread as the flu.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #419 on: March 04, 2020, 09:05:27 PM »
What's the point of breaking news on new cases. Very soon it will be as widespread as the flu.

Agree with you, and for anyone paying attention this was all inevitable. But I think there’s value in posting these “milestones”, it gets more and more people to wake up. Visiting NYU now and haven’t seen a mask all day. Not visitors or staff.
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