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« Last edited by Joel on July 19, 2021, 01:49:19 AM »

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #520 on: March 11, 2020, 06:27:36 PM »
Trumps top health official confirmed today that COVID19 is still worse than the flu:
https://theweek.com/speedreads/901470/coronavirus-10-times-more-lethal-than-seasonal-flu-trumps-task-force-immunologist-says
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #521 on: March 11, 2020, 07:44:47 PM »
But how would this be helping to this extent if the testing is inadequate?

Testing is definitely important towards that goal, and hopefully the US will have extensive testing done very soon. But there are other methods to flatten the curve, including canceling all large events/gatherings, greater public awareness in regards to sanitizing and avoiding infection, and of course, stocking up on toilet paper.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #522 on: March 11, 2020, 07:50:54 PM »
Testing is definitely important towards that goal, and hopefully the US will have extensive testing done very soon. But there are other methods to flatten the curve, including canceling all large events/gatherings, greater public awareness in regards to sanitizing and avoiding infection, and of course, stocking up on toilet paper.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #523 on: March 11, 2020, 07:57:01 PM »
Testing is definitely important towards that goal, and hopefully the US will have extensive testing done very soon. But there are other methods to flatten the curve, including canceling all large events/gatherings, greater public awareness in regards to sanitizing and avoiding infection, and of course, stocking up on toilet paper.
Of course there are other methods which are not dependent upon testing, but those have not really been implemented. Here we have the curve flattening based on dealing only with those surrounding cases requiring hospitalization.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #524 on: March 11, 2020, 08:35:11 PM »
Of course there are other methods which are not dependent upon testing, but those have not really been implemented. Here we have the curve flattening based on dealing only with those surrounding cases requiring hospitalization.

Agree with everything you’re saying, and I’m not against criticizing the US response. Unfortunately the US has been extremely incompetent in dealing with the virus and it’s stemming from the very top.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #525 on: March 11, 2020, 09:37:25 PM »
Agree with everything you’re saying, and I’m not against criticizing the US response. Unfortunately the US has been extremely incompetent in dealing with the virus and it’s stemming from the very top.
You are missing my point. If the higher level of testing is essential then how is it flattening? This makes it seem that the current response or working very well to avoid people overloading the health-care system while containing as much as possible. If everyone with a seasonal allergy starts coming to the hospital that in itself will cause so many more to catch it. There are so many different variables that it will be impossible to know the best response until it is hindsight. Even then it will be speculative.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #526 on: March 11, 2020, 09:39:32 PM »
There are so many different variables that it will be impossible to know the best response until it is hindsight. Even then it will be speculative.
You need massive testing and then quarantine where needed.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #527 on: March 11, 2020, 09:41:19 PM »
You are missing my point. If the higher level of testing is essential then how is it flattening? This makes it seem that the current response or working very well to avoid people overloading the health-care system while containing as much as possible. If everyone with a seasonal allergy starts coming to the hospital that in itself will cause so many more to catch it. There are so many different variables that it will be impossible to know the best response until it is hindsight. Even then it will be speculative.

I still don't understand your point I guess. What I'm saying is that we need to strive to flatten the curve. If we effectively quarantining ourselves we will be flattening the curve along with some other measures.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #528 on: March 11, 2020, 09:47:05 PM »
You need massive testing and then quarantine where needed.
How do you plan on implementing massive testing without risking further spread due to the testing?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #529 on: March 11, 2020, 09:48:05 PM »
How do you plan on implementing massive testing without risking further spread due to the testing?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #531 on: March 11, 2020, 09:48:23 PM »
I still don't understand your point I guess. What I'm saying is that we need to strive to flatten the curve. If we effectively quarantining ourselves we will be flattening the curve along with some other measures.
Extensive testing can't be both essential to flattening the curve and the curve flattening without testing at the same time.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #532 on: March 11, 2020, 09:56:01 PM »
How do you plan on implementing massive testing without risking further spread due to the testing?
By taking the proper precautions. Leave it to the medical experts. Risk vs reward.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #533 on: March 11, 2020, 10:03:03 PM »
By taking the proper precautions. Leave it to the medical experts. Risk vs reward.
Meanwhile places with massive testing also have overloads on their healthcare system.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #534 on: March 11, 2020, 10:04:24 PM »
Extensive testing can't be both essential to flattening the curve and the curve flattening without testing at the same time.

Maybe it's booming headache but I still cannot understand this.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #535 on: March 11, 2020, 10:05:43 PM »
Meanwhile places with maybe treating also have overloads on their healthcare system.
We are not prepared for this. The worst thing we can do (according to the experts) is not test.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #536 on: March 11, 2020, 10:15:25 PM »
Testing is definitely important towards that goal, and hopefully the US will have extensive testing done very soon. But there are other methods to flatten the curve, including canceling all large events/gatherings, greater public awareness in regards to sanitizing and avoiding infection, and of course, stocking up on toilet paper.
Correct. The virus is here and it's spreading at an alarming rate. There is no containing it now. The best we can do is to slow the spread down.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #538 on: March 11, 2020, 11:38:06 PM »
Just wondering, is the virus still going on in China or is it finished up?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #539 on: March 11, 2020, 11:48:27 PM »
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

One thing that hasn't added up to me in everything i have read. If the only people primarily vulnerable are those with compromised immune/respiratory systems, why are doctors who are treating patients dying from the virus? Unless they already have compromised systems.....