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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #580 on: March 12, 2020, 05:04:41 PM »
Here in Toronto, public schools have just been closed until April 5. Next week was March break anyway, but this is an additional 2 weeks.

Prime minister Trudeau is apparently in isolation as his wife is sick and being tested.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #581 on: March 12, 2020, 06:27:48 PM »
POTUS should shut down stock market for 7 days, then revisit in 7 days. 

After 9/11 they closed the market for like 5-6 trading days.

With all the other shutdowns - seems like it might preserve somw of the wealth in 401k's.


Market in a freefall. I guess tweets is not going to help.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #582 on: March 12, 2020, 06:31:44 PM »
POTUS should shut down stock market for 7 days, then revisit in 7 days. 

After 9/11 they closed the market for like 5-6 trading days.

With all the other shutdowns - seems like it might preserve somw of the wealth in 401k's.
If he did that it would take more than a decade to recover.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #583 on: March 12, 2020, 07:38:07 PM »
POTUS should shut down stock market for 7 days, then revisit in 7 days. 

After 9/11 they closed the market for like 5-6 trading days.

With all the other shutdowns - seems like it might preserve somw of the wealth in 401k's.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #584 on: March 12, 2020, 07:39:33 PM »
If he did that it would take more than a decade to recover.

Some people here are way too young to remember that, or even to remember 9/11 as an event that happened in their lifetime.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #585 on: March 12, 2020, 08:00:06 PM »
Some people here are way too young to remember that, or even to remember 9/11 as an event that happened in their lifetime.
I guess then they would not know how many years it took the NASDAQ to recover from the dot-com bubble?  ;)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #586 on: March 12, 2020, 08:07:24 PM »
If he did that it would take more than a decade to recover.

Is there no way to protect the markets from catastrophe? I'm not an expert on this, but I would think they should have some kind of measures in place in the event of a world war etc.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #587 on: March 12, 2020, 08:12:37 PM »
Is there no way to protect the markets from catastrophe? I'm not an expert on this, but I would think they should have some kind of measures in place in the event of a world war etc.
Nope.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #589 on: March 12, 2020, 08:26:51 PM »
Is there no way to protect the markets from catastrophe? I'm not an expert on this, but I would think they should have some kind of measures in place in the event of a world war etc.
Prevent people from getting their money?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #590 on: March 12, 2020, 09:09:01 PM »
US cases going up at a higher rate than Italy. Not taking drastic measures now will mean more deaths later. When will our leadership act?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #591 on: March 12, 2020, 10:57:13 PM »
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #592 on: March 12, 2020, 11:47:07 PM »
How does the US healthcare system compare to Italy?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #593 on: March 12, 2020, 11:59:07 PM »
US cases going up at a higher rate than Italy. Not taking drastic measures now will mean more deaths later. When will our leadership act?
Twice as high. And that's with grossly insufficient testing. We have no leadership. USA is doomed.

Market realized that.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #594 on: March 13, 2020, 12:01:09 AM »
How does the US healthcare system compare to Italy?
Italy has more beds per capita. USA may have better doctors, but Italy has national medicine with better organization than the fragmented incomprhensive system in the USA.

Regardless, even if USA is 2x as good, it's just a matter of time until it's overwhelmed as well.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #595 on: March 13, 2020, 12:01:43 AM »
How does the US healthcare system compare to Italy?
Not prepared the same as Italy to handle what is coming if we don't do something. We have less beds per capita than Italy.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #596 on: March 13, 2020, 07:41:40 AM »
Here's a post with pictures from a wedding in Kfar Chabad with the 100+ people rule enforced.

https://col.org.il/news/123603

I honestly don't see how the rule makes much of a difference. There's close contact, holding hands etc. Unless everyone has 100% awareness of hand washing and sanitizing OFTEN (probably in such a setting should be greater than 30 times per hour) this can easily contribute to the spread.

I was at my BIL's Chabad House Purim party this week. There too I saw 0 awareness. Buffet out there for everyone to help themselves, etc etc.

Maybe rather than limit gathering size there should be mandatory hand sanitizing stands every 10-15 feet in gatherings (and shuls).
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #597 on: March 13, 2020, 08:06:13 AM »
Here's a post with pictures from a wedding in Kfar Chabad with the 100+ people rule enforced.

https://col.org.il/news/123603

I honestly don't see how the rule makes much of a difference. There's close contact, holding hands etc. Unless everyone has 100% awareness of hand washing and sanitizing OFTEN (probably in such a setting should be greater than 30 times per hour) this can easily contribute to the spread.

I was at my BIL's Chabad House Purim party this week. There too I saw 0 awareness. Buffet out there for everyone to help themselves, etc etc.

Maybe rather than limit gathering size there should be mandatory hand sanitizing stands every 10-15 feet in gatherings (and shuls).
You cut down on exponential spread if crows are maintained.

People should likewise have commons sense not to hold hands. There's shared responsibility here.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #598 on: March 13, 2020, 08:11:47 AM »
Here's a post with pictures from a wedding in Kfar Chabad with the 100+ people rule enforced.

https://col.org.il/news/123603

I honestly don't see how the rule makes much of a difference. There's close contact, holding hands etc. Unless everyone has 100% awareness of hand washing and sanitizing OFTEN (probably in such a setting should be greater than 30 times per hour) this can easily contribute to the spread.

I was at my BIL's Chabad House Purim party this week. There too I saw 0 awareness. Buffet out there for everyone to help themselves, etc etc.

Maybe rather than limit gathering size there should be mandatory hand sanitizing stands every 10-15 feet in gatherings (and shuls).

Purim was frightening. 0 awareness. 0 precautions. 0 change in behaviors. I'm usually the skeptic and the one saying not to make a fuss and to calm the hysteria. Now I'm being called a fear monger. I'm getting laughed at for not shaking hands with people.

The lack of precautions in our community is staggering.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #599 on: March 13, 2020, 08:23:50 AM »
Purim was frightening. 0 awareness. 0 precautions. 0 change in behaviors. I'm usually the skeptic and the one saying not to make a fuss and to calm the hysteria. Now I'm being called a fear monger. I'm getting laughed at for not shaking hands with people.

The lack of precautions in our community is staggering.
I heard that your uncle's party turned into a family gathering as no one showed up.

But in our community (and families) I share your feelings. I too am the one to shun hysteria, now I'm being mocked. Though I might be the only one still thinking that my FIL shouldn't cancel his planned trip here for Pesach. I just think that while he is over 80, traveling now in business class through places with high awareness might not increase his risk.
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