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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #760 on: March 16, 2020, 11:09:29 AM »
I've heard reports that there's a massive outbreak in CH, but no testing available. Is that accurate?
As a resident of Crown Heights, I can say it's totally accurate. Hard to put a number to it, but my estimate (based on friends that have symptoms) would be 500+ here alone.
It's not that no testing is available, people are being told (by Hatzolah, Doctors) not to go for testing, even with symptoms.
Even with all the above, many people here are continuing life as usual. Shuls are still open, stores, etc.  Seems like people don't take any measures unless forced to do so, and even then...

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #761 on: March 16, 2020, 11:10:15 AM »
As a resident of Crown Heights, I can say it's totally accurate. Hard to put a number to it, but my estimate (based on friends that have symptoms) would be 500+ here alone.
It's not that no testing is available, people are being told (by Hatzolah, Doctors) not to go for testing, even with symptoms.
Even with all the above, many people here are continuing life as usual. Shuls are still open, stores, etc.  Seems like people don't take any measures unless forced to do so, and even then...
If 500 people have it and shuls are still open, rabbonim will literally have blood on their hands.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #762 on: March 16, 2020, 11:13:41 AM »
If 500 people have it and shuls are still open, rabbonim will literally have blood on their hands.
Lakewood and BP will be in the same place in a few days if they don't take action now. Actually, it might already be too late.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #763 on: March 16, 2020, 11:28:43 AM »
If 500 people have it and shuls are still open, rabbonim will literally have blood on their hands.

I drove around on Purim with a bottle of hand sanitizer and made my kids put it on after each shalach manos dropoff. Had I known where things would be now, I would have stayed home Purim.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #764 on: March 16, 2020, 11:38:36 AM »
It's not that no testing is available, people are being told (by Hatzolah, Doctors) not to go for testing, even with symptoms.
Why? What am I missing?
Are they at least telling them to quarantine themselves?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #765 on: March 16, 2020, 11:49:48 AM »
Lakewood and BP will be in the same place in a few days if they don't take action now. Actually, it might already be too late.
Asisa offices are testing in BP.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #766 on: March 16, 2020, 11:50:56 AM »
Are they at least telling them to quarantine themselves?
If you feel sick/symptoms, yes.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #767 on: March 16, 2020, 11:52:01 AM »
If you feel sick/symptoms, yes.
That's a plus.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #768 on: March 16, 2020, 11:52:35 AM »
Why? What am I missing?
Are they at least telling them to quarantine themselves?

To be clear, they are saying that if you have symptoms, there is no point in going in to the doctor, just quarantine immediately, as the doctor can't prescribe anything anyway. Going to the doctor puts more people at risk, including the doctor.

They did explicitly say that if someone has severe symptoms or if symptoms persist more than 6-7 days to call the doctor.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #769 on: March 16, 2020, 12:06:44 PM »
My kids' school is still open. We have not been sending this week but my kids are now at a disadvantage because they are not catering to the kids who are staying home.

I'm wondering, with all the all medical and rabbinical figures advocating for closure, who are the ones advocating to keep schools open? Who is taking that achrayis?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #770 on: March 16, 2020, 12:09:02 PM »
My kids' school is still open. We have not been sending this week but my kids are now at a disadvantage because they are not catering to the kids who are staying home.

I'm wondering, with all the all medical and rabbinical figures advocating for closure, who are the ones advocating to keep schools open? Who is taking that achrayis?
Do they follow R’ Chaim’s instructions ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #771 on: March 16, 2020, 12:15:41 PM »
If bars and restaurants are closed for eat-in, whats the purpose  of a curfew?  I would think 8pm -5 am is the best time to be out as there are less people around..

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #772 on: March 16, 2020, 12:47:37 PM »
To be clear, they are saying that if you have symptoms, there is no point in going in to the doctor, just quarantine immediately, as the doctor can't prescribe anything anyway. Going to the doctor puts more people at risk, including the doctor.

They did explicitly say that if someone has severe symptoms or if symptoms persist more than 6-7 days to call the doctor.
Yes, thank you for clarifying. I missed this part.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #773 on: March 16, 2020, 01:23:25 PM »
This disease mostly affects older, not well people.  So children and daycare teachers who are young and healthy are not at great risk of getting very ill or dying. It will seem like a cold or regular flu.
The self-quarantine is to slow the spread so large numbers of really sick people don't flood the healthcare system at once.
So calm down about your children and school.  Be very wary for your parents and grandparents. 
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #774 on: March 16, 2020, 01:30:28 PM »
This disease mostly affects older, not well people.  So children and daycare teachers who are young and healthy are not at great risk of getting very ill or dying. It will seem like a cold or regular flu.
The self-quarantine is to slow the spread so large numbers of really sick people don't flood the healthcare system at once.
So calm down about your children and school.  Be very wary for your parents and grandparents.

This was the only thing that DeBlasio said about holding off on school closure that made sense - he was concerned that if he closed the school the kids who may already be infected will be watched by and presumably infect, their grandparents.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #775 on: March 16, 2020, 02:09:38 PM »
This disease mostly affects older, not well people.  So children and daycare teachers who are young and healthy are not at great risk of getting very ill or dying. It will seem like a cold or regular flu.
The self-quarantine is to slow the spread so large numbers of really sick people don't flood the healthcare system at once.
So calm down about your children and school.  Be very wary for your parents and grandparents.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #776 on: March 16, 2020, 02:13:09 PM »
Yeh, India's numbers are very doubtful.

Anyone who doesnt fit your narrative is doubtful....

Never mind the filth or lack of hygiene in India.
India is 2nd most populated country, is right next to China, and has a lot of travelers going between the 2.

Knowing all this, India confirmed only 5 cases by March 3rd. You can choose to believe their numbers at face value, but I'm very doubtful.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #777 on: March 16, 2020, 03:03:33 PM »
I've heard reports that there's a massive outbreak in CH, but no testing available. Is that accurate?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #778 on: March 16, 2020, 03:03:53 PM »
Anyone else seeing longer than usual delivery estimates on amazon?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #779 on: March 16, 2020, 03:08:13 PM »
Anyone else seeing longer than usual delivery estimates on amazon?
yes,it was mentioned here somewhere, my items are taking much longer to be fulfilled as well
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