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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #920 on: March 17, 2020, 09:57:02 AM »
The big question is what will happen the day after. Will all the pent up activity burst out or will there be severe lingering effects and what will they be? There are extreme risks, but they are far from certain.
What is this pent up stuff? I heard a certain person keep on saying that. Personal spending drives the economy. I don't care how much pent up BS is there you still need money in the pockets of the average Americans to drive the economy.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #921 on: March 17, 2020, 10:07:56 AM »

https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch/compared-to-what
@yuneeq curious to hear your response to these articles. We can't ignore the fact that millions of people who live paycheck to paycheck aren't going to get their next paycheck. I don't know what the right answer is
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #922 on: March 17, 2020, 10:17:46 AM »
What is this pent up stuff? I heard a certain person keep on saying that. Personal spending drives the economy. I don't care how much pent up BS is there you still need money in the pockets of the average Americans to drive the economy.
Are you interested in having conversations or just in name calling at anything that doesn't fit in with what you feel?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #923 on: March 17, 2020, 10:22:22 AM »
Are you interested in having conversations or just in name calling at anything that doesn't fit in with what you feel?
Just ignore what you don't like.

The economy is driven by consumer spending. There is no "pent up" savings going on. Where is that spending going to come from?

Just out of curiosity where did you here the phrase "pent up"?  :)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #924 on: March 17, 2020, 10:34:24 AM »
@yuneeq curious to hear your response to these articles. We can't ignore the fact that millions of people who live paycheck to paycheck aren't going to get their next paycheck. I don't know what the right answer is

I think that if we are successful with social distancing then the price per life will be way too expensive for our comfort. But if we don’t implement social distancing, the price per life lost will be embarrassingly low. I would choose the former with no regrets. I do believe there was a time where we didn't have to go nuclear, but that time period has long passed and now we're all paying the price.

Re: the second article, I think the author does not understand exponential growth, as every comparison she makes is off its mark.

One thing I will suggest, the answer to all the people out of jobs is not to simply hand out money. It will cost a ton of money just to give out the money, and it's extremely inefficient at what it's meant to do. Have cities and communities work together to give out free food and look after the elderly. Perhaps suspend mortgage foreclosures temporarily and give banks the support to do so. Find ways to mitigate the short term problems without just throwing money at the issue.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #925 on: March 17, 2020, 10:39:06 AM »
One thing I will suggest, the answer to all the people out of jobs is not to simply hand out money. It will cost a ton of money just to give out the money, and it's extremely inefficient at what it's meant to do. Have cities and communities work together to give out free food and look after the elderly. Perhaps suspend mortgage foreclosures temporarily and give banks the support to do so. Find ways to mitigate the short term problems without just throwing money at the issue.
I think you would agree that this is going to be political. How can you vote against a giveaway? Not taking sides, just pointing out reality.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #926 on: March 17, 2020, 10:44:56 AM »
Just ignore what you don't like.

The economy is driven by consumer spending. There is no "pent up" savings going on. Where is that spending going to come from?

Just out of curiosity where did you here the phrase "pent up"?  :)

There is just no need to be so angry at everyone.

There is lots of economic activity on hold now. Many businesses and corporations can and definitely some are postponing projects. There are postponed vacations, private purchases. There are many things that can bounce back very quickly after this passes. How much will it be? I have no idea.

Just to repeat, a bounce up does not mean that it will go back to recent highs in the near future.

I didn't hear the phrase anywhere. Why? Who had used it?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #927 on: March 17, 2020, 10:49:35 AM »
There is just no need to be so angry at everyone.

There is lots of economic activity on hold now. Many businesses and corporations can and definitely some are postponing projects. There are postponed vacations, private purchases. There are many things that can bounce back very quickly after this passes. How much will it be? I have no idea.

Just to repeat, a bounce up does not mean that it will go back to recent highs in the near future.

I didn't hear the phrase anywhere. Why? Who had used it?
I am not angry. If anything my post are tame compared to normal. Have I used any of my hotkey responses?  :)

I agree with what you are saying but where is the average American going to get the money. They are going to be hit the hardest, not people like you and me.

The "pent up" phrase is being repeated over an over againg by someone I won't name but you will get on the first guess.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #928 on: March 17, 2020, 10:52:39 AM »
I think you would agree that this is going to be political. How can you vote against a giveaway? Not taking sides, just pointing out reality.

I think certain things are above politics. In my lifetime I’ve only seen it once before, after 9/11. The way I see America unified about social distancing, I believe we can be unified for more than that. We will pay employees that are stuck home. Landlords won’t be throwing tenants out, both residential and commercial. Communities will come together to take care of the poor and elderly. It won’t be perfect, but we will all get through it together if we have the proper attitude.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #929 on: March 17, 2020, 10:53:36 AM »
I think certain things are above politics. In my lifetime I’ve only seen it once before, after 9/11. The way I see America unified about social distancing, I believe we can be unified for more than that. We will pay employees that are stuck home. Landlords won’t be throwing tenants out, both residential and commercial. Communities will come together to take care of the poor and elderly. It won’t be perfect, but we will all get through it together if we have the proper attitude.
I will hope for the best.
The thing about 911 is it hit us all at once and this is drip drip drip.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #930 on: March 17, 2020, 10:55:02 AM »
I think certain things are above politics. In my lifetime I’ve only seen it once before, after 9/11. The way I see America unified about social distancing, I believe we can be unified for more than that. We will pay employees that are stuck home. Landlords won’t be throwing tenants out, both residential and commercial. Communities will come together to take care of the poor and elderly. It won’t be perfect, but we will all get through it together if we have the proper attitude.

THIS. This is what it will boil down to.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #931 on: March 17, 2020, 10:59:16 AM »
I will hope for the best.
The thing about 911 is it hit us all at once and this is drip drip drip.
And there was a common enemy
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #932 on: March 17, 2020, 11:00:21 AM »
I am not angry. If anything my post are tame compared to normal. Have I used any of my hotkey responses?  :)

I agree with what you are saying but where is the average American going to get the money. They are going to be hit the hardest, not people like you and me.

The "pent up" phrase is being repeated over an over againg by someone I won't name but you will get on the first guess.
I fully understand what you are saying about the average American.

Oh no then I will stop using that term.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #933 on: March 17, 2020, 11:16:06 AM »
We will pay employees that are stuck home.
Not sure how long B&M stores can do this for if we get to full lockdown mode.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #934 on: March 17, 2020, 11:21:33 AM »
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #935 on: March 17, 2020, 11:54:11 AM »
They are asking companies to donate their N95 masks to the hospitals. I hope someone is smart enough to check with USPS P&DC centers for these.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #936 on: March 17, 2020, 01:19:11 PM »
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #937 on: March 17, 2020, 02:02:24 PM »

TRAGEDY IN FLATBUSH: One-Year-Old Jewish Child Niftar – Being Tested For Coronavirus
March 17, 2020 1:14 pm

A one-year-old baby boy was Niftar on Monday morning, and the Health Department is awaiting test results for COVID-19.

The 1 and a half year-old-boy, was identified as Michael Kameo Z”L. His family is a member of the Sephardic Community in Flatbush.

Sources tell YWN that he was in the hospital last week for an upper-respiratory infection, but had been released and was home when he was found unresponsive on Monday morning.

He was rushed to the hospital where he was R”L Niftar.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #939 on: March 17, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »
Looks like many mainstream frum doctors (Shanik...) are going with the UK method.