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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1200 on: March 20, 2020, 06:42:11 PM »
All hotels to close and Vacate guests in Miami Beach.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1202 on: March 21, 2020, 09:16:04 PM »
All hotels to close and Vacate guests in Miami Beach.
Add the City of Miami and Miami-Dade. Only certain guests can stay.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1203 on: March 21, 2020, 09:18:12 PM »
Add the City of Miami and Miami-Dade. Only certain guests can stay.
They should get a couple of cruise ships and let them party all they want until this is over. Sending them all back home will just spread it more.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1204 on: March 21, 2020, 09:39:39 PM »
Why is Dr Fauci so bureaucratic about the malaria drug? Why do we have to say that we have no cure now and it will take months until we have a REAL study? People are dying! Why not give them the chance to at least try something which has proven to work (just because it was not a stude where a pharmaceutical or other entity has made millions of dollars does not mean that its not a study)

I personally know someone who was extremely not well, wasn't able to breathe on his own and got better after taking this drug for past few days.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1205 on: March 21, 2020, 09:41:23 PM »
Why is Dr Fauci so bureaucratic about the malaria drug? Why do we have to say that we have no cure now and it will take months until we have a REAL study? People are dying! Why not give them the chance to at least try something which has proven to work (just because it was not a stude where a pharmaceutical or other entity has made millions of dollars does not mean that its not a study)

I personally know someone who was extremely not well, wasn't able to breathe on his own and got better after taking this drug for past few days.
I heard they are only giving it to people who are critically ill. Don't know if source was reliable though.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1206 on: March 21, 2020, 09:44:46 PM »
Why is Dr Fauci so bureaucratic about the malaria drug? Why do we have to say that we have no cure now and it will take months until we have a REAL study? People are dying! Why not give them the chance to at least try something which has proven to work (just because it was not a stude where a pharmaceutical or other entity has made millions of dollars does not mean that its not a study)

I personally know someone who was extremely not well, wasn't able to breathe on his own and got better after taking this drug for past few days.

has there been anyone credible who has reported this? There should be ample test cases to either prove or disprove....

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1207 on: March 21, 2020, 09:47:29 PM »
Why is Dr Fauci so bureaucratic about the malaria drug? Why do we have to say that we have no cure now and it will take months until we have a REAL study? People are dying! Why not give them the chance to at least try something which has proven to work (just because it was not a stude where a pharmaceutical or other entity has made millions of dollars does not mean that its not a study)

I personally know someone who was extremely not well, wasn't able to breathe on his own and got better after taking this drug for past few days.
+1000 Can someone please explain why death > taking an experimental drug?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1208 on: March 21, 2020, 09:52:37 PM »
+1000 Can someone please explain why death > taking an experimental drug?
I'm not a doctor, but I have one conjecture. Yes, it's worth it on all costs to give this to people who would otherwise die. But they may be worried to give it to everyone effected. Lets say, R'L, half of US's 330 million people contract the virus and are given the drug, and we later learn that it causes Alzheimer's or cancer ch'v or something of that nature, it could have a much more tragic effect, whereas otherwise most people would've just gotten better.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1209 on: March 21, 2020, 09:54:59 PM »
I'm not a doctor, but I have one conjecture. Yes, it's worth it on all costs to give this to people who would otherwise die. But they may be worried to give it to everyone effected. Lets say, R'L, half of US's 330 million people contract the virus and are given the drug, and we later learn that it causes Alzheimer's or cancer ch'v or something of that nature, it could have a much more tragic effect, whereas otherwise most people would've just gotten better.
of course, people that will eventually get out of it on there own should not be given this drug.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1210 on: March 21, 2020, 09:56:00 PM »
I'm not a doctor, but I have one conjecture. Yes, it's worth it on all costs to give this to people who would otherwise die. But they may be worried to give it to everyone effected. Lets say, R'L, half of US's 330 million people contract the virus and are given the drug, and we later learn that it causes Alzheimer's or cancer ch'v or something of that nature, it could have a much more tragic effect, whereas otherwise most people would've just gotten better.

How would you quantify that risk, considering it has been an approved treatment of malaria for years?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1211 on: March 21, 2020, 09:56:30 PM »
of course, people that will eventually get out of it on there own should not be given this drug.
It's possible that this distinction is not recognizable until it's too late...

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1212 on: March 21, 2020, 10:09:46 PM »
Why is Dr Fauci so bureaucratic about the malaria drug?
He isn't, he is doctor that believes in science.
What if it seems to work and then it is used on a mass scale. Then a year later all these nasty side effects show up?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1213 on: March 21, 2020, 10:11:56 PM »
He isn't, he is doctor that believes in science.
What if it seems to work and then it is used on a mass scale. Then a year later all these nasty side effects show up?
should be given as last resort option.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1214 on: March 21, 2020, 10:12:13 PM »
He isn't, he is doctor that believes in science.
What if it seems to work and then it is used on a mass scale. Then a year later all these nasty side effects show up?
it has been an approved treatment of malaria for years

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1215 on: March 21, 2020, 10:13:57 PM »
should be given as last resort option.
...and IIRC he agrees. The issue is what if it works? Do you then give on a mass scale or do a controlled study first?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1216 on: March 21, 2020, 10:14:00 PM »
I'm not a doctor, but I have one conjecture. Yes, it's worth it on all costs to give this to people who would otherwise die. But they may be worried to give it to everyone effected. Lets say, R'L, half of US's 330 million people contract the virus and are given the drug, and we later learn that it causes Alzheimer's or cancer ch'v or something of that nature, it could have a much more tragic effect, whereas otherwise most people would've just gotten better.

This drug is around for many years... so the side effect stats are already there

Dont see why this shouldn't be given

Please guys, stay home and keep safe. I know a few ppl in the hospital from this

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1217 on: March 21, 2020, 10:15:41 PM »
This drug is around for many years... so the side effect stats are already there
AFAIK the dosage is not the same and it will also be tried in conjunction with other drugs.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1218 on: March 21, 2020, 10:21:05 PM »
...and IIRC he agrees. The issue is what if it works? Do you then give on a mass scale or do a controlled study first?
shouldn't it be given as an option to the patient, or family?
Make them sign for it, just like other tests and procedures.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1219 on: March 21, 2020, 10:33:50 PM »
shouldn't it be given as an option to the patient, or family?
Make them sign for it, just like other tests and procedures.
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