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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1640 on: March 29, 2020, 07:25:46 PM »
Optimistic hope, not fantasy.

Would you prefer to open everything back up in two weeks? I think you know the answer and just can't admit that Trump is doing the right thing here...
Not one expert said we could open up by Easter. I prefer he lock down the whole country by now. From day one he has these ideas that are based on fantasies!!!
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1641 on: March 29, 2020, 07:31:31 PM »
What will testing accomplish? We couldnt because of FDA red tape. That has since been removed and Abbott will have a test by next week that comes back in 7 minutes for positive and 13 minutes for negative...or something like that.

Does this test for presence of virus, or antibodies?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1642 on: March 29, 2020, 07:38:34 PM »
Not one expert said we could open up by Easter. I prefer he lock down the whole country by now. From day one he has these ideas that are based on fantasies!!!
How?
Cuomo already said he would sue them if they stop anyone from NY who is passing through. Theyre pulling over anyone with NY license plates.
More like after hearing the governors say he never consulted them and a quarantine was illegal.
Ask Coumo as he said it. He also said this would put the states at war with the government.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1643 on: March 29, 2020, 07:46:23 PM »
Does this test for presence of virus, or antibodies?
For the virus.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1644 on: March 29, 2020, 09:06:48 PM »
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I confirmed this with a relative in hatzalah, he says it’s true and hatzalah can’t do anything about it because they don’t let anyone in there



Fwd: I have inside information from a friend whos a nurse that some maimonides nurses are ignoring jewish patients and letting them die...she told another nurse that one of the patients (heimishe patient)oxygen level was dropping and the nurse totally ignored so she went to complain to the superviser thst the nurse is not complying the head nurse also ignored and patient died..and family nebach thinks that they died from virus..they died from neglect.. the nurses on her unit are blaming the jews for the spreading of corona..


If chas veshalom anyone needs emergency care they should call a private ambulance(most take insurance) and go to a different hospital
I heard another similar story concerning the same hospital.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1645 on: March 29, 2020, 09:36:24 PM »
Not targeting Jews. 
The healthcare workers are overworked with little job satisfaction - not enough patients are getting well.
Most are helping people not die, but many are not giving basic care well.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1646 on: March 29, 2020, 10:44:06 PM »
Not targeting Jews. 
The healthcare workers are overworked with little job satisfaction - not enough patients are getting well.
Most are helping people not die, but many are not giving basic care well.
Assumption?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1648 on: March 29, 2020, 11:02:09 PM »
https://twitter.com/YosefRapaport/status/1244453204928192512
from what I heard Hatzolah was the one who uncovered what’s going on there by one member fishing his way in to check on a fellow member which he found literally abandoned (I'm cutting out the details ודל)
And this is unfortunately not the only story.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1649 on: March 29, 2020, 11:03:35 PM »
Cuomo said today when discussing the rising deaths; “people are on the ventilator longer & longer, & the longer you’re on the ventilator the less your chance of ever getting off that ventilator.”
Why’s that ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1650 on: March 29, 2020, 11:04:38 PM »
Cuomo said today when discussing the rising deaths “people are on the ventilator longer & longer, & the longer you’re on the ventilator the less your chance of ever getting off that ventilator.”
Why’s that ?
They become reliant upon it. I remember that discussion regarding my mother a"h.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1651 on: March 29, 2020, 11:06:24 PM »
They become reliant upon it. I remember that discussion regarding my mother a"h.
It doesn’t help stabilize so that you can get the person off it ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1652 on: March 29, 2020, 11:11:17 PM »
It doesn’t help stabilize so that you can get the person off it ?
They need to be weaned off and the longer they are on the more difficult that becomes. The lungs become "lazy" or something like that.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1653 on: March 29, 2020, 11:14:02 PM »
They need to be weaned off and the longer they are on the more difficult that becomes. The lungs become "lazy" or something like that.
So what’s killing everybody ? Are they taking people off the ventilators ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1654 on: March 29, 2020, 11:16:36 PM »
So what’s killing everybody ? Are they taking people off the ventilators ?
I am not sure I am understanding your question, but a ventilator can only push air into the lungs. If they are too obstructed or the oxygen exchange is too poor that will no longer help.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1655 on: March 29, 2020, 11:17:23 PM »
It doesn’t help stabilize so that you can get the person off it ?
I don’t know the reason but I believe I saw a graph that showed that the amount of time someone is on a ventilator is almost exactly directly proportional with their chances of survival. As in 1 day, excellent survival rate. 28 days, very low. Etc.

I might be wrong, don’t quote me, just vaguely remember seeing it.

ETA: Not proposing anything myself, but this may have immediate moral implications. At some point into intubation when the patient’s life expectancy dips below a certain survival rate some doctors may decide to electively remove longer-term patients from ventilators (thus “killing” them) to save more lives. I understand this breaches standard medical ethics but it would end up saving many more lives overall and may already be in practice in places like Italy. It’s similar to the age discrimination they are practicing.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1656 on: March 29, 2020, 11:20:21 PM »
I don’t know the reason but I believe I saw a graph that showed that the amount of time someone is on a ventilator is almost exactly directly proportional with their chances of survival. As in 1 day, excellent survival rate. 28 days, very low. Etc.

I might be wrong, don’t quote me, just vaguely remember seeing it.
Yes, and this is independent of COVID
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1657 on: March 29, 2020, 11:27:51 PM »
I guess my question is more for a Dr. What’s killing people after only a few days ? They haven’t even had a chance to be on ventilator for any length of time. Are lungs becoming immediately obstructed & can't be cleared ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1658 on: March 29, 2020, 11:53:14 PM »
I don’t know the reason but I believe I saw a graph that showed that the amount of time someone is on a ventilator is almost exactly directly proportional with their chances of survival. As in 1 day, excellent survival rate. 28 days, very low. Etc.

I might be wrong, don’t quote me, just vaguely remember seeing it.

It seems logical that someone who is less sick (and therefore more likely to recover) would need less time on a ventilator.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1659 on: March 29, 2020, 11:56:42 PM »
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