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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1660 on: March 30, 2020, 12:10:34 AM »
from what I heard Hatzolah was the one who uncovered what’s going on there by one member fishing his way in to check on a fellow member which he found literally abandoned (I'm cutting out the details ודל)
And this is unfortunately not the only story.

This is horrible, this is why its so important a family member can be there. But you can imagine the screaming going on if they would let. The fights etc.
hashem should protect all yidden from being at the mercy of some lazy nurse

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1661 on: March 30, 2020, 12:15:44 AM »
This is horrible, this is why its so important a family member can be there. But you can imagine the screaming going on if they would let. The fights etc.
hashem should protect all yidden from being at the mercy of some lazy nurse
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1662 on: March 30, 2020, 12:17:02 AM »
A ventilator / respirator pushes air into the lungs to give the person oxygen.  Sometimes,even with that help, the lungs won't take in enough oxygen. So they try other settings on the ventilator to push the air in differently or other tricks.  Some people's oxygen level doesn't go up and their organs may begin to fail from lack of oxygen.

(One trick you can try at home. Lay on your stomach.  Sometimes the lungs can absorb oxygen better that way.)


In aygarts mothers case, I would guess her breathing muscles were becoming less strong the longer she was ventilated. In the short term, a covid / pneumonia patient is better off on a respirator than struggling for air  and their muscles will have a rest while their body clears the corona virus. The amount of time to clear covid varies.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1664 on: March 30, 2020, 12:33:43 PM »
Heard from a grandchild of a patient, NYU refusing for hours to give Respirator, family (2 of them are Hatzalal) had to fight for it.
luckily they knew whats going on, so they were able to get one.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1665 on: March 30, 2020, 12:39:21 PM »
Some possible reasons about why we were unable to set up testing like they did in SK. Why did the CDC work on their failed test instead? According to this it is for very important reasons.

https://mobile.twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1240740700620115970
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1666 on: March 30, 2020, 12:42:16 PM »
Some possible reasons about why we were unable to set up testing like they did in SK. Why did the CDC work on their failed test instead? According to this it is for very important reasons.

https://www.twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1240740700620115970

Can you copy/paste for those who have Twitter blocked?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1667 on: March 30, 2020, 12:47:12 PM »
WHO has been proven to be very unreliable throughout this whole saga. How long did it take them to declare it a pandemic, and that's after they claimed that they don't use the word pandemic anymore? I've also seen a lot of shoddy research from them, but it's hard to completely disregard it when they're the only ones claiming to have researched something.

Here's more proof:
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/ffa5jn/who_changed_their_medical_suggestions_after/

Full thread on this. Links to some quoted articles below.

https://twitter.com/Aabhas24/status/1243841913561575425
Important note in there is that Tedros is NOT an MD. He uses the title Dr. as a PhD

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2017/10/25/another-week-another-scandal-at-the-united-nations/
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/who-chief-urges-countries-not-close-borders-foreigners-china
https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1668 on: March 30, 2020, 12:52:30 PM »
Can you copy/paste for those who have Twitter blocked?
I'll try

PoliMath
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So... here's a fun thing that I actually know from, you know, talking to people and asking questions.

Why aren't we using South Korea's faster antibody test to test for COVID-19?

Well, a couple of reasons (this will take a little while) /1
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- What is the typical life-cycle of a test? Where does it originate, to whom is it passed, where is it stored, who decides to provide test access?

- Why was South Korea able to use the faster antibody test? Why aren't we using that test? (I actually know this one!) /2
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Most of the S Korea spread was descended from "Patient 31" who was super-spreader. This is the one that spread it at the church, if you've heard that story. /2
Coronavirus cases have dropped sharply in South Korea. What’s the secret to its success?
A scary brush with Middle East respiratory syndrome led the country to set up the world’s most expansive testing program for COVID-19
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So S Korea has a relatively homogeneous viral population (the viruses were genetically similar to each other). Apparently (I am not deep on the details here) there is an antibody test that is pretty fast and efficient, but requires a homogenous viral pop /3
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The US, however, has seen viral introductions from a couple different places, so our viral population is NOT homogeneous and we would need different antibody tests for the different points of introduction. /4
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This is fascinating, it looks like 90% of the COVID transmission in Seattle is from a single introduction in late Jan from China.
The NY intro is from Iran and San Diego intro from Europe. https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1239427195992305665
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So we have to end up using the a RT-PCR test, which was the CDC test. The Seattle lab that we've head so much about modified their own MERS (which is a coronaviral respiratory disease, but not COVID-19) to test for COVID-19.  /5
PoliMath
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I've been told the Roche tests are... not better, but apparently there are a lot of testing facilities that can run them, but I'm not sure what the difference is between the Roche test and the RT-PCR test /6
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That's it. That's all the stuff I know.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1670 on: March 30, 2020, 04:38:10 PM »
from what I heard Hatzolah was the one who uncovered what’s going on there by one member fishing his way in to check on a fellow member which he found literally abandoned (I'm cutting out the details ודל)
And this is unfortunately not the only story.
>:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1671 on: March 30, 2020, 05:02:43 PM »
And I now hear that they opened an investigation now...
2 patients that passed away, family claiming they weren't taken care of.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1672 on: March 30, 2020, 05:08:58 PM »
And I now hear that they opened an investigation now...
2 patients that passed away, family claiming they weren't taken care of.

As if there are resources for an investigation. Resource shortages are scary for everyone.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1673 on: March 30, 2020, 05:09:20 PM »
And I now hear that they opened an investigation now...
2 patients that passed away, family claiming they weren't taken care of.
Who’s they ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1674 on: March 30, 2020, 05:11:53 PM »
Who’s they ?
will ask for more details.
My neighbor was taken in, not in critical condition.
he passed away 2:30 hours later. (he was covered with white, while still wearing his clothes...)

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1675 on: March 30, 2020, 06:39:10 PM »
will ask for more details.
My neighbor was taken in, not in critical condition.
he passed away 2:30 hours later. (he was covered with white, while still wearing his clothes...)
Hospital?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1676 on: March 30, 2020, 06:53:00 PM »
Hospital?
the one that sanz doesn't use?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1677 on: March 30, 2020, 07:29:48 PM »

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1678 on: March 30, 2020, 09:26:39 PM »
will ask for more details.
My neighbor was taken in, not in critical condition.
he passed away 2:30 hours later. (he was covered with white, while still wearing his clothes...)

Anything can happen & I am not a dr. But this is not good

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #1679 on: March 30, 2020, 10:24:15 PM »
does anyone know the social distancing laws in NYC? outdoor chuppah with 10 people will be dispersed?
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