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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2025 on: April 22, 2020, 08:28:45 PM »


https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/First-known-U-S-coronavirus-death-occurred-on-15217316.php


“What it means is we had coronavirus circulating in the community much earlier than we had documented and much earlier than we had thought,” said Dr. Sara Cody, Santa Clara County’s public health officer. “Those deaths probably represent many, many more infections. And so there had to be chains of transmission that go back much earlier.”

Cody did not provide details about the people who died in February but said the deaths “tell us we had community transmission - probably significant community transmission - far before we realized it and documented it.”

“From what we understand, neither of the cases had a history of travel,” Cody said. “So we assume that they were acquired locally.”People typically die of COVID-19 about a month after they are infected with the coronavirus, suggesting that the person who died Feb. 6 likely was infected in early January. At that time, the virus had been reported only in China — the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had not yet issued any advisories to Americans about the potential threat
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2026 on: April 22, 2020, 11:01:23 PM »
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2027 on: April 23, 2020, 01:55:38 AM »

Such total bunk on so many levels. Disappointed in Tucker lately.

1) He claims it’s never been done: Lie. During the Spanish flu some cities locked down and some didn't, the ones that didn’t had many many thousands more people dying. Here’s a chart showing the FINAL difference between St. Louis and Philadelphia, after St. Louis locked down and Philly didn’t.

2) He claims there’s no long term evidence that social distancing will work here: There is a preponderance of evidence from any country that locked down early so far that they managed to lower the number of deaths big time. True there’s no longer term statistics on what ends up happening but that’s one of the dumbest things to say, of course there’s no long term proof- THERE IS NO LONG TERM, THIS THING JUST GOT INVENTED

3) Proving from states that didn’t lock down yet because they weren’t hit as hard yet, vs. states that locked down late BECAUSE they were already hit hard like NY, then making it like it was the social distancing that caused it/didn’t help >:(

4) Saying things like Italy got hit hard despite being locked down. What a dunce. Italy had thousands already dead before they started their lockdown BECAUSE of how bad it was. That’s when it started falling. Same with New York. Only California locked down early and look how well they’re doing despite double the population of NY and earlier cases.

And there’s the rub. If too few die, the virus was overhyped. If too many die, social distancing doesn’t work. What final number, pray tell, would be the satisfactory number for people to agree it’s a real threat AND social distancing helped?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2028 on: April 23, 2020, 07:25:45 AM »
Such total bunk on so many levels. Disappointed in Tucker lately.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2029 on: April 23, 2020, 07:55:04 AM »
Last week some projections were under 60k for amount of deaths. That no longer looks to be the case.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2030 on: April 23, 2020, 08:12:15 AM »
Last week some projections were under 60k for amount of deaths. That no longer looks to be the case.
Which projections? All I remember seeing was from 200k to 1.2 million

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2031 on: April 23, 2020, 08:16:50 AM »
Which projections? All I remember seeing was from 200k to 1.2 million
This was from the 9th and it was lowered since then.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/09/coronavirus-deaths-u-s-could-closer-60-k-new-model-shows/5122467002/
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2033 on: April 23, 2020, 10:14:57 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-new-yorks-largest-hospital-system-88-percent-of-coronavirus-patients-on-ventilators-didnt-make-it/ar-BB133Act?ocid=spartanntp

Says 88% of those on ventilators have not been making it. Hashem Yerachem.
Depends on the institution and the department.  Some ICUs in Maimonides have close to a 75% rate of getting OFF the respirator.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2034 on: April 23, 2020, 11:24:03 AM »
Depends on the institution and the department.  Some ICUs in Maimonides have close to a 75% rate of getting OFF the respirator.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2035 on: April 23, 2020, 01:17:47 PM »
Any talmidie chachamim out there that can help me out

Closing the economy for over a month and longer poses danger for people who don't have jobs anymore or can't work in their industry bc its shut down

I'm wondering what is torah perspective, bc from the gemara on nedarim 80b it seems like it's not so simple

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2036 on: April 23, 2020, 01:31:09 PM »
Any talmidie chachamim out there that can help me out

Closing the economy for over a month and longer poses danger for people who don't have jobs anymore or can't work in their industry bc its shut down

I'm wondering what is torah perspective, bc from the gemara on nedarim 80b it seems like it's not so simple

See Tosefta BM 11:14 last few words and minchas bikurim. (note how one of the shitos of R Yosi is left out in Nedarim.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2037 on: April 23, 2020, 01:49:24 PM »
Does anyone have recent DP on new infections, hospitalizations etc.. in our communities?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2038 on: April 23, 2020, 02:19:41 PM »
Can someone please explain to me the antibody plasma testing that has been going on all over the Jewish world. According to people in the know only one person has been given antibody therapy in Mount Sinai with no real results. The whole fanfare of sending it off by PJ to the Mayo clinic for testing. There are no known results so far. There are far more positive results from treating patients with HCY etc or blood thinners to reduce clots which seem to be a byproduct of the disease.

I have a bad feeling about this. My gut tells me this is just someone or a group of people building a database such as the bone marrow or kidney testing drives that go on regularly and someone will be profiting off this. Dont get me wrong, people are tzadikim for contributing their time and for getting tested for many of these ventures. 
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