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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2040 on: April 23, 2020, 02:29:51 PM »
Can someone please explain to me the antibody plasma testing that has been going on all over the Jewish world. According to people in the know only one person has been given antibody therapy in Mount Sinai with no real results. The whole fanfare of sending it off by PJ to the Mayo clinic for testing. There are no known results so far. There are far more positive results from treating patients with HCY etc or blood thinners to reduce clots which seem to be a byproduct of the disease.

I have a bad feeling about this. My gut tells me this is just someone or a group of people building a database such as the bone marrow or kidney testing drives that go on regularly and someone will be profiting off this. Dont get me wrong, people are tzadikim for contributing their time and for getting tested for many of these ventures.
It seems like they are also trying it in EY with some results.
https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/.premium-plasma-from-covid-19-survivors-helps-patients-whose-condition-is-deteriorating-1.8788154

There might be an element of do-gooding trying to counteract the negative press/aiva.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2041 on: April 23, 2020, 02:34:59 PM »

There might be an element of do-gooding trying to counteract the negative press/aiva.
This. Is. So. Sad.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2042 on: April 23, 2020, 03:23:22 PM »
Such total bunk on so many levels. Disappointed in Tucker lately.
In regards to your social distancing point, I don't think he was talking about that at all. He was talking about locking down cities. These are 2 different things. I'm not saying he right or wrong, just getting the facts straight.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2044 on: April 23, 2020, 04:43:52 PM »
IL just extended stay at home until 5/31.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2045 on: April 23, 2020, 04:54:19 PM »
IL just extended stay at home until 5/31.
That seems a bit much to do go 5 1/2 weeks out with a stay at home order. Why wouldn't they do a shorter time frame and reassess then?

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« Reply #2046 on: April 23, 2020, 05:00:13 PM »
That seems a bit much to do go 5 1/2 weeks out with a stay at home order. Why wouldn't they do a shorter time frame and reassess then?
It will a nice surprise if they end early which they can always do.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2047 on: April 23, 2020, 05:23:37 PM »


Can someone please explain to me the antibody plasma testing that has been going on all over the Jewish world. According to people in the know only one person has been given antibody therapy in Mount Sinai with no real results. The whole fanfare of sending it off by PJ to the Mayo clinic for testing. There are no known results so far. There are far more positive results from treating patients with HCY etc or blood thinners to reduce clots which seem to be a byproduct of the disease.

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Def more than one person has been given the this antibody therapy, and some have responded well to it.

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« Reply #2048 on: April 23, 2020, 06:12:14 PM »

Def more than one person has been given the this antibody therapy, and some have responded well to it.
In US? Where?

My daughter tells me that results from a few days of testing IGG immunity are rolling in on antibody tests and they are very weird. People who tested negative on nasal swab COVID tests multiple times are positive for antibodies and healthcare workers who were absolutely exposed to many many people with positive symptoms are testing negative for antibodies. 
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2049 on: April 23, 2020, 06:30:38 PM »
In regards to your social distancing point, I don't think he was talking about that at all. He was talking about locking down cities. These are 2 different things. I'm not saying he right or wrong, just getting the facts straight.
Explain how they are different?

AFAIK, locking down a city to the fullest extent (like China) is the most extreme form of social distancing. Allowing everyone to proceed as normal with just a few precautions (like Sweden and the states he quoted) is the least extreme form of social distancing. He was referring to the measures cities/states/countries were taking, all locked down to some extent or another.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2050 on: April 23, 2020, 06:31:19 PM »


In US? Where?

My daughter tells me that results from a few days of testing IGG immunity are rolling in on antibody tests and they are very weird. People who tested negative on nasal swab COVID tests multiple times are positive for antibodies and healthcare workers who were absolutely exposed to many many people with positive symptoms are testing negative for antibodies.

Mount sinai south nassau.  As with everything covid-19 related information, its probably to soon to be close to conclusive yet.

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« Reply #2051 on: April 23, 2020, 06:33:29 PM »

Mount sinai south nassau.  As with everything covid-19 related information, its probably to soon to be close to conclusive yet.
What are they seeing as far as antibody testing? Is it consistent with people who were presumed positive?
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« Reply #2052 on: April 23, 2020, 06:36:06 PM »
What are they seeing as far as antibody testing? Is it consistent with people who were presumed positive?
All I can say is my daughter, an RN treating confirmed positive patients left and right, has had symptoms like cough, slight fever, loss of taste and smell yet...tested negative for antibodies.
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« Reply #2053 on: April 23, 2020, 06:38:23 PM »
All I can say is my daughter, an RN treating confirmed positive patients left and right, has had symptoms like cough, slight fever, loss of taste and smell yet...tested negative for antibodies.
That’s crazy. Don’t know what to believe anymore.
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« Reply #2054 on: April 23, 2020, 06:46:04 PM »
All I can say is my daughter, an RN treating confirmed positive patients left and right, has had symptoms like cough, slight fever, loss of taste and smell yet...tested negative for antibodies.
Seems consistent with everything else related to covid-19 - nothing makes sense.
 
Although cant it just be that  she hasn't fully recovered yet and developed those antibodies?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2055 on: April 23, 2020, 06:57:19 PM »
healthcare workers who were absolutely exposed to many many people with positive symptoms

Exposed with or without PPE?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2056 on: April 23, 2020, 08:00:34 PM »
That’s crazy. Don’t know what to believe anymore.
I remember watching the press conference a week or so ago (they all look the same). They asked the president if was going to take the antibody test. Dr Brix responded there was no such test. This is when states were doing test. 
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« Reply #2057 on: April 23, 2020, 08:15:22 PM »
That seems a bit much to do go 5 1/2 weeks out with a stay at home order. Why wouldn't they do a shorter time frame and reassess then?

Highly doubt any state can take much longer....they may have some serious civil unrest on their hands .

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« Reply #2058 on: April 23, 2020, 08:23:38 PM »
Exposed with or without PPE?
PPE but not hospital grade. Lets put it this way...wouldnt count on any PPE really working with the amount of patients any healthcare worker is exposed to. Plenty hospital staff have self quarantined from family because they know PPE only helps so much.
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« Reply #2059 on: April 23, 2020, 08:25:40 PM »
Seems consistent with everything else related to covid-19 - nothing makes sense.
 
Although cant it just be that  she hasn't fully recovered yet and developed those antibodies?
Probably her genetic makeup. Shes only one in oir family who lost titers to MMR and needed to be vaccinated a third time.
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