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« Last edited by Joel on July 19, 2021, 01:49:19 AM »

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2060 on: April 23, 2020, 08:56:31 PM »
What are they seeing as far as antibody testing? Is it consistent with people who were presumed positive?
A large NY medical center/hospital is passing information not to take the antibody test since they haven't tested its validity to COVID-19 as a whole.  IOW, still too many unanswered questions regarding number of strains, length of immunity, etc. so there is no point in getting it since we don't yet know what it means.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2061 on: April 23, 2020, 09:27:24 PM »
A large NY medical center/hospital is passing information not to take the antibody test since they haven't tested its validity to COVID-19 as a whole.  IOW, still too many unanswered questions regarding number of strains, length of immunity, etc. so there is no point in getting it since we don't yet know what it means.
most hospitals are having their workers as the guinea pigs to see if it works

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2063 on: April 23, 2020, 09:39:13 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/experts-rip-trumps-idea-of-injecting-disinfectant-to-treat-coronavirus.html
Lol. Why is anyone even responding to his comments? Does anyone actually give them any weight?

That would be my response in a normal world.  ::)

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2064 on: April 23, 2020, 10:05:34 PM »
Lol. Why is anyone even responding to his comments? Does anyone actually give them any weight?

That would be my response in a normal world.  ::)
cmon, u gotta give him credit. All with a straight face! And he made u laugh...

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2066 on: April 23, 2020, 11:17:42 PM »
Can someone please explain to me the antibody plasma testing that has been going on all over the Jewish world. According to people in the know only one person has been given antibody therapy in Mount Sinai with no real results. The whole fanfare of sending it off by PJ to the Mayo clinic for testing. There are no known results so far. There are far more positive results from treating patients with HCY etc or blood thinners to reduce clots which seem to be a byproduct of the disease.

I have a bad feeling about this. My gut tells me this is just someone or a group of people building a database such as the bone marrow or kidney testing drives that go on regularly and someone will be profiting off this. Dont get me wrong, people are tzadikim for contributing their time and for getting tested for many of these ventures.
quote from Bill Gates in Washington Post, if you go for him
But several more-promising candidates are on the horizon. One involves drawing blood from patients who have recovered from covid-19, making sure it is free of the coronavirus and other infections, and giving the plasma (and the antibodies it contains) to sick people. Several major companies are working together to see whether this succeeds.
Of course he ends we need a vaccine......

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2068 on: April 23, 2020, 11:23:12 PM »
quote from Bill Gates in Washington Post, if you go for him
But several more-promising candidates are on the horizon. One involves drawing blood from patients who have recovered from covid-19, making sure it is free of the coronavirus and other infections, and giving the plasma (and the antibodies it contains) to sick people. Several major companies are working together to see whether this succeeds.
Of course he ends we need a vaccine......
Exactly...building a database like bone marrow or kidney donation.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2069 on: April 23, 2020, 11:33:05 PM »

Of course he ends we need a vaccine......

Is it possible to use the plasma in lieu of a vaccine (at least until it's available)? So let's say every recovered patient donates, and the plasma is then given to the vulnerable population so that the only ones getting infected are the non-vulnerable among us?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2070 on: April 23, 2020, 11:33:53 PM »
Exactly...building a database like bone marrow or kidney donation.
Well first we have to know if it works and if it does let someone make profit as long as it’s saving lives
Btw there’s kidney/bone marrow  drives/orgs lshem shomyim

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2071 on: April 23, 2020, 11:35:16 PM »
Is it possible to use the plasma in lieu of a vaccine (at least until it's available)? So let's say every recovered patient donates, and the plasma is then given to the vulnerable population so that the only ones getting infected are the non-vulnerable among us?
Wish it could happen
Anyway he won’t make his $ on that

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2072 on: April 23, 2020, 11:37:50 PM »
All I can say is my daughter, an RN treating confirmed positive patients left and right, has had symptoms like cough, slight fever, loss of taste and smell yet...tested negative for antibodies.
Has she ever tested positive?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2073 on: April 23, 2020, 11:37:57 PM »
Well first we have to know if it works and if it does let someone make profit as long as it’s saving lives
Btw there’s kidney/bone marrow  drives/orgs lshem shomyim
The way they have been pushing it vs actually knowing it works are asymmetric. I'm just a skeptic. Why do they need thousands of samples?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2074 on: April 23, 2020, 11:44:26 PM »
The way they have been pushing it vs actually knowing it works are asymmetric. I'm just a skeptic. Why do they need thousands of samples?
looks like they’re  trying to prove hospitals that were skeptical to start testing the treatment due to potential lack of donors

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« Reply #2075 on: April 23, 2020, 11:47:01 PM »
looks like they’re  trying to prove hospitals that were skeptical to start testing the treatment due to potential lack of donors
4,000?!?  :o
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2076 on: April 24, 2020, 07:05:33 AM »
Lol. Why is anyone even responding to his comments? Does anyone actually give them any weight?
Millions do. Where have you been?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2077 on: April 24, 2020, 07:13:06 AM »
4,000?!?  :o

So you’re saying there’s not a thread of fact in the Mishpacha article that claims that multiple hospitals are already testing convalescent plasma by injecting it into their patients?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2078 on: April 24, 2020, 07:14:14 AM »
Exactly...building a database like bone marrow or kidney donation.

What’s the issue with those databases? So what if someone makes a profit, at the end of the day they’re saving lives.

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« Reply #2079 on: April 24, 2020, 08:12:02 AM »
So you’re saying there’s not a thread of fact in the Mishpacha article that claims that multiple hospitals are already testing convalescent plasma by injecting it into their patients?
Didnt read the article. But hearing from frontline doctors that it is not the case in NY right now. They are just not doing it.
What’s the issue with those databases? So what if someone makes a profit, at the end of the day they’re saving lives.
Just a transparency issue. Dont make a profit without disclosing it and dancing around like a velt's tzadik. Saving lives altruisticly and saving lives for profit are very different.
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