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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2440 on: May 07, 2020, 10:16:36 AM »
I ask this question every week. Our testing capacity keeps going up and fatality rate has increased again. Why is that and when should we see the fatality rate go down. Don't give me the BS it is a lagging indicator.
Probably partially depends on what we consider a Covid 19 death. Whether it means death with Covid or death cause by Covid.
Honestly, I think the only unbiased and truly meaningful measure is excess death rate
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2441 on: May 07, 2020, 10:19:54 AM »
I ask this question every week. Our testing capacity keeps going up and fatality rate has increased again. Why is that and when should we see the fatality rate go down. Don't give me the BS it is a lagging indicator.

Maybe rephrase the question to where us simpletons can understand.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2442 on: May 07, 2020, 10:30:44 AM »
Maybe rephrase the question to where us simpletons can understand.
The belief was the death rate was high because we were not testing that many. The testing capacity keeps going up but so has the death rate. Why if we are testing way more does the death rate keep going up? The answers in past was that it was lagging and in a couple of weeks you will see it drop. It is way past a couple of weeks.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2443 on: May 07, 2020, 10:30:56 AM »
I ask this question every week. Our testing capacity keeps going up and fatality rate has increased again. Why is that and when should we see the fatality rate go down. Don't give me the BS it is a lagging indicator.
What is your source that the fatality rate has increased?
Why do you not consider it being a lagging indicatore to be a good answer?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2444 on: May 07, 2020, 10:33:01 AM »
I ask this question every week. Our testing capacity keeps going up and fatality rate has increased again. Why is that and when should we see the fatality rate go down. Don't give me the BS it is a lagging indicator.

Considering that the percentage of tests being positive are going down you could definitely make a strong argument that it is indeed a lagging indicator, let's give it a week or two and see where the numbers hold. I do think the reported CFR will start dropping just like the precent of tests that are coming back positive currently is.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2445 on: May 07, 2020, 10:39:17 AM »
The belief was the death rate was high because we were not testing that many. The testing capacity keeps going up but so has the death rate. Why if we are testing way more does the death rate keep going up? The answers in past was that it was lagging and in a couple of weeks you will see it drop. It is way past a couple of weeks.

Are you talking in absolute numbers or as a percentage of those infected?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2446 on: May 07, 2020, 10:40:19 AM »
Are you talking in absolute numbers or as a percentage of those infected?
Percentage of those infected
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2447 on: May 07, 2020, 10:40:33 AM »
Is there any reason not to reopen babysitting and playgroup services in our areas? I would say that 95 percent of parents sending to such services are under 40 years old. And those that aren't comfortable doing that, shouldn't send.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2448 on: May 07, 2020, 10:42:06 AM »
What is your source that the fatality rate has increased?
Why do you not consider it being a lagging indicatore to be a good answer?
You love to ask questions but never answer them.  :)
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The lagging answer was using a couple weeks and that is long gone.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2449 on: May 07, 2020, 10:43:47 AM »
Are you talking in absolute numbers or as a percentage of those infected?
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« Reply #2450 on: May 07, 2020, 10:44:39 AM »
Considering that the percentage of tests being positive are going down you could definitely make a strong argument that it is indeed a lagging indicator, let's give it a week or two and see where the numbers hold.
That was the answer 6 weeks ago.  :)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2451 on: May 07, 2020, 10:45:15 AM »
Percentage of those infected

The answer to that is pretty simple, we don't add the number of those who tested positive to antibodies to the denominator,  so the CFR will never be adjusted properly in a place like NY,  if we were to have a new hotspot elsewhere in the country, with aggressive testing the CFR will drop precipitously.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2452 on: May 07, 2020, 10:49:17 AM »
I ask this question every week why is there still no study if having the virus causes immunity?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2453 on: May 07, 2020, 10:50:59 AM »
I ask this question every week why is there still no study if having the virus causes immunity?

Do you mean by intentionally infecting those who recovered?
 

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2454 on: May 07, 2020, 10:52:43 AM »
Do you mean by intentionally infecting those who recovered?
That isn't necessary.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2455 on: May 07, 2020, 10:54:46 AM »
You love to ask questions but never answer them.  :)
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
The lagging answer was using a couple weeks and that is long gone.
It’ll keep being true as long as people are still getting it and dying. When the dust clears we should see declining numbers and then declining deaths. Presumably the rate of infection is still outpacing the rate of testing.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2456 on: May 07, 2020, 10:56:19 AM »
Presumably the rate of infection is still outpacing the rate of testing.
Thank you! Finally an answer that at least makes sense. 
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2457 on: May 07, 2020, 10:59:45 AM »
Do you mean by intentionally infecting those who recovered?
However it’s done with all other  diseases.
If they need reinfect they can come to Williamsburg they’ll have lots of volunteers

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2458 on: May 07, 2020, 11:01:12 AM »
That isn't necessary.

These things take time , unless we we're to say there is a nefarious reason that they want us to believe we will never be immune.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2459 on: May 07, 2020, 11:01:47 AM »
However it’s done with all other  diseases.
If they need reinfect they can come to Williamsburg they’ll have lots of volunteers
They don't need to re-infect anyone for the study.
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