COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread

[AsherO]

Also, a very large portion (most?) actually had a positive test.

A large portion of the community got tested for antibodies (using reliable tests) and had positive results? Even those who never had symptoms? And please don’t tell me “everyone had symptoms”

[S209]

Just don’t try to use it to prove antibody levels in the broader community. They only tested people who opted in and had symptoms. It’s not a representative sample

It was only people who strongly believed they had had it, factoring in symptoms, exposures, and in many cases tests, so of course we can’t extrapolate to the broad community in any way but it does go a ways toward showing that most people who did have it indeed developed antibodies, which is really encouraging and comes on top of other evidence of that being the case as well.

[S209]

A large portion of the community got tested for antibodies (using reliable tests) and had positive results? Even those who never had symptoms? And please don’t tell me “everyone had symptoms”

I think he means the ones in this drive. They were very specifically only asking for those who believed they had antibodies based on symptoms and exposure, as this was not a test for personal use but as a screener to see if they can donate plasma. These were the super-accurate tests so the numbers shouldn’t be too off with false results either.

[Jerseysteve]

https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290

[S209]

https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290

Wow

[flyingace]

https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290

I am waiting to hear this in NY/NJ as well. Not surprised one bit.

[AsherO]

https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290

Based on antibody levels? They’re still going up 4 months later?

ETA: I read this now and I’m skeptical. Onset of symptoms could have been an undiagnosed flu...

[Baruch]

There's a 40 year old woman in Lakewood (my neighbor) that nearly died in late December, the doctors were baffled. They recently called her and told her that they're fairly confident she had Covid, because her whole situation is consistent with what they see now with Covid.

[Onefishtwofish]

https://crownheights.info/communal-matters/705137/covid-19-update-for-the-crown-heights-community-28-crown-heights-by-the-numbers/

Dr Rosen is the best. Providing updates and clarity to the crown heights community.

[Yard sale]

https://crownheights.info/communal-matters/705137/covid-19-update-for-the-crown-heights-community-28-crown-heights-by-the-numbers/

Dr Rosen is the best. Providing updates and clarity to the crown heights community.

We need more like him in other communities. He makes a good point. At whatever point many seniors reach the breaking point, and give up and exit their isolation, we NEED to make sure that the younger population does so some time earlier, to give as much herd immunity as possible before the most vulnerable and non exposed population comes out.

I have a friend in Toronto who tells me his older parents have had enough and started venturing out. Anecdotally starting to hear the same in other communities. Not a smart idea. I’m all for ending the quarantines but not in this fashion. Have those in the younger population who have been careful about quarantining and are still susceptible come out first, and only then let the elderly and compromised population relax their guard.

[Afrages6]

We need more like him in other communities. He makes a good point. At whatever point many seniors reach the breaking point, and give up and exit their isolation, we NEED to make sure that the younger population does so some time earlier, to give as much herd immunity as possible before the most vulnerable and non exposed population comes out.

I have a friend in Toronto who tells me his older parents have had enough and started venturing out. Anecdotally starting to hear the same in other communities. Not a smart idea. I’m all for ending the quarantines but not in this fashion. Have those in the younger population who have been careful about quarantining and are still susceptible come out first, and only then let the elderly and compromised population relax their guard.

It’s very clear that there is no good exit plan from all of this unfortunately.

[aygart]

We need more like him in other communities. He makes a good point. At whatever point many seniors reach the breaking point, and give up and exit their isolation, we NEED to make sure that the younger population does so some time earlier, to give as much herd immunity as possible before the most vulnerable and non exposed population comes out.

I have a friend in Toronto who tells me his older parents have had enough and started venturing out. Anecdotally starting to hear the same in other communities. Not a smart idea. I’m all for ending the quarantines but not in this fashion. Have those in the younger population who have been careful about quarantining and are still susceptible come out first, and only then let the elderly and compromised population relax their guard.

Thi accentuates the importance of publicly discussing plans to unwind and not giving vagaries. There are many reasons people can feel that it is safe for them to relax and some of them are legitimate. In order to prevent it from being taken to far communication of a roadmap is needed.

[Kobe Bryant]

looking more and more like those who called for lifting the lockdown for those with antibodies and the younger population with no preexisting conditions were ahead of the curve.

[AsherO]

https://crownheights.info/communal-matters/705137/covid-19-update-for-the-crown-heights-community-28-crown-heights-by-the-numbers/

Dr Rosen is the best. Providing updates and clarity to the crown heights community.

They’re reporting antibody statistics for those who had symptoms and got tested, and are assuming that is reflective of the broader population. Sounds like a mistake to me.

[PlatinumGuy]

They’re reporting antibody statistics for those who had symptoms and got tested, and are assuming that is reflective of the broader population. Sounds like a mistake to me.

Yup

This suggests that the vast majority of our community below age 65 has had a meaningful interaction with the virus, with the majority likely possessing antibodies. We would hope and suspect that most in this age group have some form of protection against the virus, at least in the short term.

Worse fake news than anything out of China

[yaakov35]

Yup
Worse fake news than anything out of China

And u know that because....? 40 from guys in my office tested for antibodies and they all had. 50 guys from my shul and 49 had. Maybe you don't know everything?

[yelped]

And u know that because....? 40 from guys in my office tested for antibodies and they all had. 50 guys from my shul and 49 had. Maybe you don't know everything?

Try being a little more respectful, please.

[PlatinumGuy]

And u know that because....? 40 from guys in my office tested for antibodies and they all had. 50 guys from my shul and 49 had. Maybe you don't know everything?

Lol. One doesn't need any prior knowledge to know that this statement is completely fake and follows no logical pathway.

This suggests that the vast majority of our community below age 65 has had a meaningful interaction with the virus,

[Kobe Bryant]

They’re reporting antibody statistics for those who had symptoms and got tested, and are assuming that is reflective of the broader population. Sounds like a mistake to me.

"On the other hand, among those who did have the illness (based on symptoms), it would appear that overall greater than 70% of them developed antibodies"
Unless im reading it wrong, many did not get tested for Covid19 and only had Symptoms.
I agree that it isn't reflective of the broader population, but one could argue that those same numbers would be reflected among the asymptomatic.

[shwarmabob]

Marines: Gyms across the Corps are starting to open, but with some limitations to help stem the spread of COVID-19