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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2701 on: June 08, 2020, 03:38:42 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/08/upshot/when-epidemiologists-will-do-everyday-things-coronavirus.html
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2702 on: June 08, 2020, 03:48:59 PM »
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
Exactly. People view these “experts” as a bunch of nuts and therefore end up following nothing.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2703 on: June 08, 2020, 03:51:48 PM »
Also it wouldn’t hurt if the times did a study on the mental health effects of the last couple months and how many people were effected.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2704 on: June 08, 2020, 03:56:39 PM »
Also it wouldn’t hurt if the times did a study on the mental health effects of the last couple months and how many people were effected.

Very hard to quantify, especially if you don’t have data from the same subjects from before the pandemic.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2705 on: June 08, 2020, 04:00:22 PM »
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
They probably never shook hands or hugged people.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2706 on: June 08, 2020, 04:08:25 PM »
They probably never shook hands or hugged people.
Exactly. People view these “experts” as a bunch of nuts and therefore end up following nothing.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2707 on: June 08, 2020, 04:32:57 PM »
They probably never shook hands or hugged people.
Seems from the article that they’re saying they will not do it again (but they have previously)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2708 on: June 08, 2020, 04:40:31 PM »
Very hard to quantify, especially if you don’t have data from the same subjects from before the pandemic.

I meant asking the mental health experts like they did with epidemiologists.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2709 on: June 08, 2020, 04:42:58 PM »
I meant asking the mental health experts like they did with epidemiologists.
How would they know what was caused by the pandemic and what by the lockdown?

I guess it’s possible by comparing locales with similar restrictions but hit at different levels.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2710 on: June 08, 2020, 04:56:05 PM »
How would they know what was caused by the pandemic and what by the lockdown?

I guess it’s possible by comparing locales with similar restrictions but hit at different levels.

That’s true, but there seems to be a certain ignorance by the media towards the toll this will have on people who have been forced into their homes for the last three months.

We had a “town hall” with my Rov the other night and someone asked about summer camps and how parents could send their kids if there is a possible exposure, my Rov answered that there is a very small risk and you have to weigh that together with the mental health aspect of a kid going to camp and socializing.

Don’t mistake this as me saying that mental health outweighs the risks of life going on as normal, I just think it should be more of a factor in decisions then it seems to be.

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« Reply #2711 on: June 08, 2020, 06:44:20 PM »
That’s true, but there seems to be a certain ignorance by the media towards the toll this will have on people who have been forced into their homes for the last three months.

We had a “town hall” with my Rov the other night and someone asked about summer camps and how parents could send their kids if there is a possible exposure, my Rov answered that there is a very small risk and you have to weigh that together with the mental health aspect of a kid going to camp and socializing.

Don’t mistake this as me saying that mental health outweighs the risks of life going on as normal, I just think it should be more of a factor in decisions then it seems to be.
I’d say it’s been a large factor in just about everyone’s decision making (with the notable exceptions of Cuomo, Murphy, and DeBlasio).

Certainly mental health is a serious concern. As is the economy, and even more so, religious needs.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2712 on: June 08, 2020, 07:00:18 PM »
I’d say it’s been a large factor in just about everyone’s decision making (with the notable exceptions of Cuomo, Murphy, and DeBlasio).

Certainly mental health is a serious concern. As is the economy, and even more so, religious needs.
Unfortunately, they have the last word in our area.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2713 on: June 08, 2020, 07:02:11 PM »
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
-1. The only option was never again, there was no, never did that.
I'd wager that those 6% have never shaken hands. I know several doctors that never shake hands.

Also from the article,
"Real epidemiologists don't shake hands.”
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2714 on: June 08, 2020, 10:10:38 PM »
-1. The only option was never again, there was no, never did that.
I'd wager that those 6% have never shaken hands. I know several doctors that never shake hands.

Also from the article,
"Real epidemiologists don't shake hands.”
The n was different for each question.

I'd guess people abstained if it didn't apply to them.

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« Reply #2715 on: June 08, 2020, 10:23:51 PM »
The n was different for each question.

I'd guess people abstained if it didn't apply to them.
How does never again not apply? It does nothing to imply they ever did.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2716 on: June 08, 2020, 10:48:36 PM »
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
Exactly. People view these “experts” as a bunch of nuts and therefore end up following nothing.

Note that "6% will never shake hands or hug again" implies that 94% of epidemiologists will return to hand-shaking and hugging when greeting a friend.  Hardly a reason to view them all as a bunch of nuts.

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« Reply #2717 on: June 08, 2020, 11:44:52 PM »
Note that "6% will never shake hands or hug again" implies that 94% of epidemiologists will return to hand-shaking and hugging when greeting a friend.  Hardly a reason to view them all as a bunch of nuts.
Also the same amount (6%) say they would do it now already but that won’t stop people from confirming their previous biases
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2719 on: June 09, 2020, 02:40:59 AM »
Wow. This will reinforce some people’s preconceptions of epidemiologists. 6% will never shake hands or hug again?
Fair amount of people are germaphobes and didn't shake hands before this started
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