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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2956 on: June 29, 2020, 10:52:29 PM »
What do you mean?
Does anyone have as robust, advanced and accessible of a medical system as the USA? 
No other country has the resources or sense of responsibility we do.
Most US practical medical research is US based while I think other countries get it from us.
Most of the countries barely know what to test for.
Many are not quite 1st world (even if not 3rd world.)

It's one thing to compare between states (and you see how iffy that can be) I wouldn't dare put them with other countries.

If I understand correctly you were saying something similar albeit with less background.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2957 on: June 29, 2020, 11:00:59 PM »
Does anyone have as robust, advanced and accessible of a medical system as the USA? 
No other country has the resources or sense of responsibility we do.
Most US practical medical research is US based while I think other countries get it from us.
Most of the countries barely know what to test for.
Many are not quite 1st world (even if not 3rd world.)

It's one thing to compare between states (and you see how iffy that can be) I wouldn't dare put them with other countries.
On a simple note, Canada is charging $200 to get a covid test. They're not some 3rd world crummy country. There's 0 chance that any of that info is accurate. At best its misleading, and its probably outright lies.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2958 on: June 29, 2020, 11:04:55 PM »
On a simple note, Canada is charging $200 to get a covid test. They're not some 3rd world crummy country. There's 0 chance that any of that info is accurate. At best its misleading, and its probably outright lies.
0 chance any of which info is accurate?

In America the public has been pushed to get tested, tested and tested again.

Scenario: You never had real  symptoms and you dont know that you've been exposed. You are feeling a drop under the weather. Do you pay $200 to satisfy your curiosity?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2959 on: June 29, 2020, 11:06:19 PM »


0 chance any of which info is accurate?



All the info all these European/Asian countries are making available. If people have been to any of them they would know there's no way.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2960 on: June 29, 2020, 11:10:43 PM »
However, I've written my opinion on short-term solutions I'd like to see, including mandatory masks, capacity limits for all indoor businesses, closing dine-in restaurants, bars, entertainment venues, conferences, and trade shows, regular testing of any public-facing workers, and tax incentives for businesses who allow employees to work from home and create minimal contact business models (curbside pickup, etc.).

So here is where we are almost in total agreement. A sensible approach like this, rather than an extensive lockdown, would be much more sustainable. I would just add to that a separate path for those that contracted the virus and recovered.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2961 on: June 30, 2020, 01:41:04 AM »
Would love to know what is considered "non-serious cases". I personally know over 100 people in my immediate circle, who have had Covid19, and AFAIK none have any issues BH (may it continue so).

@Kobe bryent   Could you ask them?  This is a large sample, and it would be interesting to know if they have any lingering symptoms.  The article Lurker posted found that 50% had weakness and breathing difficulties.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2962 on: June 30, 2020, 03:17:44 AM »
@Kobe bryent   Could you ask them?  This is a large sample, and it would be interesting to know if they have any lingering symptoms.  The article Lurker posted found that 50% had weakness and breathing difficulties.

The only lingering effect that I have heard of in my circles (probably just as large), is of some people not having their sense of smell (and possibly taste) fully recovered.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2963 on: June 30, 2020, 07:58:50 AM »
So here is where we are almost in total agreement. A sensible approach like this, rather than an extensive lockdown, would be much more sustainable. I would just add to that a separate path for those that contracted the virus and recovered.
Do you think such an approach might incentivize people to contract the virus?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2964 on: June 30, 2020, 08:28:36 AM »
Do you think such an approach might incentivize people to contract the virus?
Yes. Especially young people.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2965 on: June 30, 2020, 08:42:08 AM »
Yes. Especially young people.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2966 on: June 30, 2020, 08:43:59 AM »
Do you think such an approach might incentivize people to contract the virus?
Possibly. There was a time when people tried to get their kids to contract chicken pox, so that they should acquire imunity and not get it when older, as it was generally a lot less severe for children than it is for adults.

ETA: In Crown Heights, when the extent of the spread was obvious right after Purim, a highly respected medical professional in the community had initially opposed school and shul closings, arguing that since it's unstoppable, it's better if the entire community gets it early, while hospital beds are still available for the few that will require hospitalization, rather than contracting it later at a time when it is more widespread citywide, and hospital beds might not be available. 
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2967 on: June 30, 2020, 08:44:21 AM »
Do you think such an approach might incentivize people to contract the virus?
Make a poll...?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #2968 on: June 30, 2020, 08:48:59 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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